Women and the Fans...

[gen-is-gone.livejournal.com]

So, it isn't Monday, but who's up for a little discussion anyway? Namely, about some of the women on our show. Now, I've been following recent ep discussion posts and I'm noticing a few strange similarities between fan reaction to Hotch's new jogging partner,(and now girlfriend) Beth and former co-star Ashley Seaver, played by Rachel Nichols. Now, before you get into the long rants about her physical similarities to JJ or her supposedly bland acting, hear me out: the abject hatred some fans felt toward her was disconcerting to say the least, and so I am upset (though not really surprised) to hear that new character Beth is getting the same treatment.

I'm honestly indifferent towards Beth because there isn't much to her character yet, but character development happens over time. Frankly, I'm tired of the witch hunts Criminal Minds' fanbase goes on every time a new (or not so new) female character gets introduced. I remember the discussion posts leading up to 100 and at least 50% of all of the Haley related comments saying that they hoped she'd die. And then she did, and the few who actually lacked the shame to cheer for a violent murder were subsequently shouted down. Now that it's been two years, people seem to like her more. And let us not forget Ashley and Jordan Todd, neither of whom got the chance to develop as characters because the (mostly female) fans pitched a dozen fits. And to rewind even farther, remember all the Elle fans (where have they gone I wonder...) complaining after her first introduction in 'The Last Word' that Emily was an Ice Bitch and a robot? You certainly won't see them around anymore. I wish that for once criminalxminds would shut up about female characters long enough to get to know them. Much though I adore Reid and all of the male cast, I'm noticing that the double standard we've all been accusing CBS of in regards to their not valuing women is surprisingly (and hypocritically) apparent within our own fanbase. Now, I know Will and Kevin still have quite the hatedom of their own, but they're mostly getting flack from over-the-top shippers, while Haley, Elle, Emily, Jordan, Ashley and Beth were at varying points treated with an appalling amount of suspicion and out right hatred. So, what do you think? Agree? Disagree? Want to rip my throat out? I'm not trying to come off as rude, I would love to better understand why so many people find fault with such seemingly innocuous women.

Comments

[charlsie-esq.livejournal.com]

I'm coming out from lurking to respond to this comment. I am guilty of the girl-hate. I was indifferent to Haley, to add the truth, I felt like she was the character that put what the team did in a real-world context. Haley was all, yes I know my husband saves people, but I want him at home for dinner. I resented her for not being more understanding but I could put myself in her shoes. I was indifferent to Ashley because the character felt unfinished. I thought the actress was poor but the character didn't give her much to work with. I hated Elle. I thought she was obnoxious and I felt the same way about Jordan. I didn't like JJ until Season 7, before that, I felt like she was window dressing. I loved Strauss, she was a great villain/foil. I loved Emily on sight. I felt like she was strong and intelligent and brought so many special skills to the team. I love her interaction with Morgan. She was just the first female character that I felt was on par with the guys and not fluff. I love Garcia for all her quirkiness. Your post made me think about why I like or don't like the female characters. I think I only like strong female characters. The more gutsy she is, the more I like her (which is why I like this season's JJ more than before). As for Becky. I like her because she makes Hotch smile. Whatever makes him smile makes me happy.