Late because I've no idea what day of the week it is...

[a_blackpanther]

This is the discussion post for Episode 9x05 - "Route 66". Watch out for SPOILERS in the comments.

Comments

[mycha-kk.livejournal.com]

I noticed the poster, it was shown in the last scene with all the hugging.

And hm, isn't subconscious supposed to be kinda screwed? ;) but seriously, 'i think there has been a lot of stuff in that subconscious sequence. He's guilt over Haley and Foyet deaths; his guilt over being with Beth; his insecurities about fatherhood; his inability to open up/show true feelings; Rossi being his mentor, guide; also I think he glorifies Haley (maybe because of the way she died, but she was so dolled up in his dreams that she came as unreal). But I liked that story line with Hotch.

What are your thoughts on it all?

[a_blackpanther]

You're right on all those counts. But in his subconscious Haley and Foyet are like BFFs or something. And he keeps relieving haley's death - that's SERIOUSLY screwed up.

Hotch definitely glorifies Haley - probably since the divorce, actually, not just her death. I like that she was so dolled up, I could definitely buy that that's the Haley Hotch remembers.

And can we talk about how good TG looks in a tux?

[mycha-kk.livejournal.com]

We can, we can! talk, gush, and fangirl ;) He looks great!

The BBF was weird and creepy. But since I'm a religious person I assumed it might have been that he needed peace with the dead or that after death there is peace for the dead and all the bad stuff is resolved/doesn't have place. The show doesn't go for the religious stuff as far as i remember so this is just my interpretation (or trying to rationalize that creepiness). And I do like the dolled up Haley cause it was an insight into Hotch's mind/heart.

[runriggers.livejournal.com]

I think in a way that's how Hotch always saw Haley, they were high school sweethearts after all.

[ruralstar.livejournal.com]

I agree regarding Hotch's feelings about Haley. She was his soulmate for want of a better term. And as stated by her sister, their marriage didn't end because they fell out of love. His job got in the way. Beth can relate to him in a different way in part because he's evolving as a person.

And I'll jump on the TG fan club. He looked sharp as hell in that tux!

[periantari.livejournal.com]

The Hotch storyline is so great!!! This episode has got to be one of my favorites in all the seasons that this show has been on. So many feelings in this ep-- I loved it so much. The subconscious sequence was awesome--I think he is guilty for Haley very much so and I loved Rossi being there at the end to drive him away back to living and trying to let go and be there for Jack and Beth now.....