ext_130487 ([identity profile] ohshiznaps.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] criminalxminds2009-09-24 02:43 pm

premiere hotch speculation

This was discussed briefly on the episode discussion post, but i felt it needed it's own as it could be a HUGE added pain for our beloved leader.

The reaper, Hotch... was there a rape? it was most definitely insinuated, but i felt it was more of a "wait, WHAT?!" moment that passed to quickly to get  a full read on the situation.

im thinking no. if it had, i feel they would have put in more content to support it. all we really saw was a stab that looked below the belt. and the reaper was still fully in pants through the whole thing. 

unless it's something hotch blocked from his memory...

does anyone remember what the reaper said to him? about stabbing being a substitute for sex?

  if this has been discussed or anything already, feel free to mod it up.

[identity profile] cupcakery.livejournal.com 2009-09-24 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm on the fence about there actually being full-on anal penetration rape, but I definitely think that Foyet got off on it, as in I was surprised there's no mention of semen on Hotch's clothes (but Foyet is a smart Evil Scrawny Bastard would have used a condom).

I was very much reminded of Elle's "I could feel his hand inside my wound," and there's a definite level of sexual assault going on, simply because of the whole Foyet is a sadist and would, inevitably, be getting off on the pain (see previous female victims, obvs. and well, any history of sadistic killers). There's also the possibility that (attempting to be delicate, here) Foyet made his own orifice, re: stabbing. Which is just, augh.

[identity profile] took-skye.livejournal.com 2009-09-24 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Oddly the thought that, to use your words, "Foyet made his own orifice" crossed my mind as well...and now I'm just really grateful I'm not the only one whose mind went there. (Whew, lol!)