ext_325559 ([identity profile] drasticbarbie.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] criminalxminds2010-01-03 07:26 pm

a new discussion

someone's reply to my last post gave me this idea. antionettemason said that not all the victims on CM are portrayed as weak. that's very true.

which is your favorite victim, one who you thought was really awesome?

for me it was the girl who escaped in "Bloodline" because she remembered so much and helped them catch the unsubs. and the woman in Mexico who laughed at her rapist.

[identity profile] cloudzrshibby.livejournal.com 2010-01-04 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
I'm gonna say Adam totally counts as a victim. So him.

[identity profile] irishcookie.livejournal.com 2010-01-04 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
I am newer to the show but of what I saw...

Carrie from Children of the Dark (Season 3) - the fact that she was able to first identify the people that killed her family and then later face one of them so the team could get information out of him...and she was only a teenager.

My heart broke for her when she finally broke down after they took him out of the room.

[identity profile] britmandelo.livejournal.com 2010-01-04 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
Another answer of an UNSUB that was also a victim: Tobias. The intricate damage he suffered and half-survived was gut-clenching, not to mention his sympathy for Reid and his (admittedly backwards) caretaking behavior. That episode cycle will stick with me forever. (Or, hell, Reid. Or Hotch. Or Morgan. Almost all of the team has survived an attack of some kind, if not repeated attacks. I still have my suspicions about what Emily may or may not have been through as a young woman. It's definitely true that the "victims" are strong, because arguably, most of our main character have been victims.)

[identity profile] silver-chipmunk.livejournal.com 2010-01-04 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know the episode title, but inthe episode that had the two brothers catching people whose cars broke down and bow-hunting them in the woods. The woman who survived, who killed one brother and wounded the other. She sure wasn't weak.

[identity profile] woodchoc-magnum.livejournal.com 2010-01-04 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
The woman from Open Season always stands out in my mind.

There are others as well but when I think of victims who fought back, she's definitely top of the list for me.

[identity profile] coffeeem.livejournal.com 2010-01-04 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
The woman in "Open Season," definitely. The woman in "Legacy," who ran the killer's maze in the abandoned meat packing plant and never stopped fighting him.

Oh, there are so many, because one of the messages of CM is that it's always better to put up a fight. If you don't fight, you can't win.

[identity profile] antoinettemason.livejournal.com 2010-01-04 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
aww, thanks, it's neat to have inspired such a good topic!

i was impressed by the ones you mentioned, as well as carrie from "children of the dark" and the woman from "legacy." another one i liked was the woman who was kidnapped by the stalker (i forget the episode name). she was scared, but still managed to keep her cool and remember all the things emily and jj taught her about how to survive in the situation. i also really liked the kidnapped teen in "to hell/and back," again because even though she was scared, she kept her head and figured out a way to contact help. like i said in the other post, i think the way the victims are portrayed is part of what makes cm so successful. the stories play into some of our deepest fears, but they also show us that it's possible to escape from those situations if we don't let fear control us completely.

[identity profile] bluerosefairy.livejournal.com 2010-01-04 03:37 am (UTC)(link)
The girl from "To Hell..." and "...And Back", who manipulated Lucas's disabilities to save her own life. I love that she sympathized with him and didn't want the FBI to hurt him, but she didn't want to just lay down and die, either.

[identity profile] veenecks.livejournal.com 2010-01-04 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
I've always liked Tracy Belle. She survived two unsubs, Frank and the little Red head kid who was killing the other kids. I swear I could see her joining the BAU in the future. OOHHH FIC IDEA!

The little girl from Bloodline always kind of got to me because her ailment, epilepsy or seizure disorder, saved her life. Its heart warming to know that most Control Type Unsubs would never want to get me because I'm epileptic.

Oh and the woman from the Saw episode. I hope she got clean...

[identity profile] underspell102.livejournal.com 2010-01-04 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
The girl from Legacy. I love how she says, "I win." at the end.

[identity profile] paksenarrion2.livejournal.com 2010-01-04 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
Everyone has mentioned my favorites-the girl from Open Season who killed the one brother (even though I felt a bit sorry for him) and almost killed the other one, the girl from Legacy who never gave up trying to escape and Tracey from The Boogeyman/The Evilution of Frank. Not once but twice she was the target of a serial killer and managed to get away. Granted, the second time was because of the team but the first time, she managed to run away on her own.

[identity profile] hairy-flower.livejournal.com 2010-01-04 12:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I liked Lindsay from "3rd life". She and her father are my favourite difficult-to-say-what-they-realy-are characters :)

[identity profile] djan31.livejournal.com 2010-01-04 02:25 pm (UTC)(link)
The girl who was being hunted by the two brothers. She was very strong, and she got hers.
I forget what the episode is.

[identity profile] nostalgia788.livejournal.com 2010-01-04 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
The girl from To Hell... And Back, I forgot her name.

[identity profile] silver-chipmunk.livejournal.com 2010-01-05 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
I just thought of another one. In the episode about the guy who's imprisoning couples in his motel, and raping and torturing the woman forcing the man to watch. the last couple... the man tried so hard to get free he actually tore the chair lose from where it was bolted to the floor and managed to fight back.

[identity profile] ladymalchav.livejournal.com 2010-01-05 07:51 am (UTC)(link)
One of the things I really love about Criminal Minds is that you don't get many of those classic Horror Movie moments. The ones where you yell at the screen 'OMG DON'T RUN UP THE STAIRS!' or 'WHY ARE YOU JUST SITTING THERE, SMASH SOMETHING!!!' It's very gratifying and satisfying to see the 'victims' fight back, be smart and clever, and not give up.

I mean, I can think of a few times (In Name and Blood and The Slave of Duty come to mind), but then it wouldn't be interesting if they all got away.

[identity profile] sapphirejoy.livejournal.com 2010-01-05 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
The girl who fought back and stabbed the UnSubs in "Open Season."

[identity profile] 80ssluvrgirl.livejournal.com 2010-01-05 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Even though he was an unsub, I think my favorite victim was Johnny McHale from True Night. To quote JJ "sometimes what the unsub does actually makes sense" and while I believe that violence is not the answer, I could totally sympathize with him and see how the loss of his fiancee and unborn child would cause him to want revenge. Also, I think Frankie Muniz did a great job portraying the character.

[identity profile] redblonde7.livejournal.com 2010-01-07 11:31 am (UTC)(link)
The woman from 'Legacy' is a big one, when I was watching that episode I was just thinking that she's got guts, she kept fighting even when bleeding, drugged and terrified. Plus the first thing she worried about after she was free was her child. Also the victim from 'Open Season' who used her head and managed to survive.
Morgan was also a victim and I love how he managed to put Buford away and help his current victim as well as caring for the first boy who died.

Very first episode, Extreme Aggressor

[identity profile] gsyh.livejournal.com 2011-11-16 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
Lady was in a frickin cage, with a chain around the neck, and she kicked the unsub! You go girlfriend!

Then the young lady in "A Thousand Words", also chained around the neck, after one week, she kept it together, trying to talk the girlfriend into letting her go. Plus, instead of being broken into an accomplice like the girlfriend after one week of abuse, she remained a strong protector, towards the baby.

The girl who got away in "Open Season", so boss!


Haley Hotchner, she stayed so very very brave, and keep in mind that this is after she had been isolated and on the run for quite a while.


One of the victims in "Remembrance of Things Past", the unsub stabbed her to death, she was the one before the one who was rescued, but I admire her going down taunting him, refusing to make the message.

The Alpha male who tried to take down the unsub in "Compromising Positions" even though his hands was handcuffed behind his back. That's a guy you can feel safe with! He lost, but he tried and almost got it.


That poor fourteen year old boy in "Psychodrama", who refused to punch his mom harder and was shot for it. That little boy who was so tiny, but he refused to shoot his mom, and his mom who asked her little boy to shoot her because the unsub had a knife to his throat.

The Professor in "Empty Planet".

The sex worker who tried to avenge her friend at the end of "Sex, Birth, Death"



I could go on forever, I love this show.