[identity profile] mariamcardoso.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] criminalxminds
Because not all unsubs are evil at heart. Some just "break". Possible spoilers depending on answers by the community.

These are the ones that made my eyes tear up (under the cut):



Normal Hill from episode 11 of season 4. Jonny Mchale from episode 10 of season 3.

What are the unsubs that made you shed tears?

Date: Dec. 13th, 2013 06:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] philstar22.livejournal.com
That woman in the one episode who just wanted people to listen to her talk about her dead son and felt that no one else cared. That really hit me.

I agree about Norman Hill. I felt worse for his family, but he still made me sad.

The ones who have serious mental conditions. Like the OCD girl in season 1 or the ones that are delusional. Those ones are different than the ones that are psychopaths or whatever and choose to do what they do. The ones who really can't choose or don't know what they are doing make me sad.

Date: Dec. 13th, 2013 06:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_tiger_saver_/
The boxer whose son was dying. I was sobbing.

Date: Dec. 13th, 2013 07:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wizardelfgirl.livejournal.com
The guy with PTSD who thought he was in the war, (don't remember the season), and the guy in S7 Ep3 I think who had that rare syndrome that made him think his family had been replaced and killed his parents.

Date: Dec. 13th, 2013 09:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] la-loony.livejournal.com
OMG That guy with the replacement syndrome was sooooooooooo sad, I felt horrible when they tried to calm him down with his family but then he managed to see them and started to believe they were replaced too.

Date: Dec. 13th, 2013 12:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mycha-kk.livejournal.com
I felt real bad for the father in Route 66 this season I actually cried at the end.

I agree with Norman and the comic writer killer - two heart wrenching episodes. The one with the mother whose son was killed was sad too. Hard to blame her for snapping.

I'm thinking also about Self-fulfilling Prophecy from season 7. But I don't recall properly if the one they were chasing at first was the real killer. I know I enjoyed the episode and I will rematch it this weekend :)

Date: Dec. 13th, 2013 12:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] philstar22.livejournal.com
Oh, and a comment below reminded me a about the woman who had been in Srebrenica.

Date: Dec. 13th, 2013 02:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mycha-kk.livejournal.com
OMG, I love your icon! Can I steal it? did you make it? Who can i credit?
Edited Date: Dec. 13th, 2013 02:50 pm (UTC)

Date: Dec. 13th, 2013 03:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blythechild.livejournal.com
Alex O'Loughlin's character in "The Big Wheel" (season 4).
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I've seen that ep a few times and it always gets me. I really love his relationship with the blind son of one of his victims.

Date: Dec. 13th, 2013 07:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mzkitteh.livejournal.com
Aw Vincent, yeah. I agree with this one. Especially at the end when they go on the ferris wheel as he's dying.

Date: Dec. 13th, 2013 07:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blythechild.livejournal.com
Totally. It gets me every single time.

Date: Dec. 13th, 2013 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mycha-kk.livejournal.com
So I've visited CM.wikia and browsed the unsubs, and here is the list that I gathered:

Edward "Eddie" Lee Wilcox, Jr.from Route 66 (s.9)
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I cried at the end. He truly loved the daughter and I felt sorry for him.

Adam Jackson (as Amanda) from Conflicted (s.4)
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Kind of hard to not feel sorry for a guy abused by his father to the point he created a second personality...

Darrin Call from Haunted (s.5)
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The traumatized (to kidnap other boys) snapping? Don't blame him... Very sad, tragic episode...

the mentioned above Norman Hill from Normal (s.4)
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That's one of those killers that hard to forget...

Roy Woodridge from Distress (s.2)
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another one mentioned above Jonny "Jon" McHale from True Night (s.3)
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Whenever he replays the message... it's hard not to feel sad for him...

mentioned above Shelley Chamberlain from Hanley Waters (s.6)
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The Mother who never got over the death of her son.

Ellen Russell and Darlene Beckett from The Pact (s.8)
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I remember feeling bad for them, for the wronging they have suffered...

Sarah Jean Mason from Riding the Lightning (s.1)
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I'm not sure if I feel sorry for her or admire her to be honest. She was not a killer but accomplice and sacrificed everything for her on...

Chris Shelton (the father) and Josh Redding (the soldier) from Self-Fulfilling Prophecy (s.7)
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That was a tragic episode...

Megan Kane from Pleasure is my Business (s.4)
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There are probably some other but those are that jumped at me just by scrolling down the list...

Date: Dec. 13th, 2013 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] full-metal-ox.livejournal.com
Nobody's yet mentioned Samantha, the Doll Collector?

Date: Dec. 13th, 2013 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] full-metal-ox.livejournal.com
That was a very difficult episode for me, too--suffice to say that I knew someone like that UNSUB's husband.

Date: Dec. 13th, 2013 09:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mycha-kk.livejournal.com
I don't remember this one... :( need to re-watch it.

Date: Dec. 13th, 2013 09:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mycha-kk.livejournal.com
I was thinking about her... I definitely felt sorry for her... it was a sad story...

There is another mentally-challenged killer in the series, but this one definitely does NOT make me feel sorry for him (actually it gives me the creeps... and I personally find him to be one of the scariest, evilest unsubs...):

Ben "Cy" Bradstone from The Proof (s.7)
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Edited Date: Dec. 13th, 2013 09:50 pm (UTC)

Date: Dec. 13th, 2013 10:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] philstar22.livejournal.com
The credit should be on my userpic page.

Date: Dec. 13th, 2013 10:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] philstar22.livejournal.com
I believe there were two people with PTSD who thought they were still in the war. There was the man you are mentioning, and then there was the woman from Bosnia.

Date: Dec. 13th, 2013 10:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] philstar22.livejournal.com
Totally forgot about her. So sad. And the fact that her father was Riker made it worse somehow.

Date: Dec. 13th, 2013 11:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tonjavmoore.livejournal.com
When he's laughing at his brother, he makes a face that is so evil I can barely look at it.

The other mentally challenged one I don't feel at all sorry for is Floyd Phalen from Lucky. He gave me the creeps for a long time.

I do feel sorry for the unsub in Derailed (Dr. Bryer) and the one from Blood Hungry.

Date: Dec. 14th, 2013 12:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] full-metal-ox.livejournal.com
"Uncanny Valley" was significant as a summary of Reid's character development, since that particular case pushed just about all his Berserk Buttons: not only mistreatment of the mentally ill and bad fatherhood, but the specific horror of being immobilized and at the mercy of a disturbed person who snapped under a parent's abuse*. That's why he made sure to confront Samantha in the presence of her victims--to make sure that they, too, received an explanation for their nightmarish ordeal (and who was ultimately to blame), as well as reassurance that their tormentor would stop hurting people once she got the heartbreakingly simple thing she really wanted all along.

*Which brings us to another name I've not yet seen mentioned:

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Tobias Hankel ("The Big Game". 2.14, and "Revelations", 2.15), trapped in the same skin with his tormentors.

Date: Dec. 14th, 2013 01:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] full-metal-ox.livejournal.com
The detail about Cy that particularly unsettles me is one that may require a specific cultural background to appreciate: his speech pattern is exactly a stock sort of voice that has come to denote a simpleton in old American cartoons: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EHDBJFoZL4

I'm not sure whether that's his natural mode of expression--which would of course have been blood in the water to his classmates--a deliberate ploy to fool people into underestimating his cunning, or even the latter playing upon the former.

Date: Dec. 14th, 2013 08:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_tiger_saver_/
Oh man. So many feels.

Date: Dec. 14th, 2013 12:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mycha-kk.livejournal.com
That's correct:

Miranda Jakar from Outfoxed (s5)
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Date: Dec. 14th, 2013 12:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mycha-kk.livejournal.com
When he's laughing at his brother, he makes a face that is so evil I can barely look at it.
That's the reason he terrifies me so much. I was watching this episode late at night and could not fall asleep for a long time. That look... it still creeps me out just thinking about it...

Date: Dec. 14th, 2013 12:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mycha-kk.livejournal.com
Two more:

Caleb Dale Sheppard, a.k.a. "The Stripping Bandit" from Psychodrama (s2)
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The fact that he needs the psychodrama to help him makes me feel bad for him... even though he shoots a teenage boy without any thought...

William "Bill" Hodges from Parasite (s5)
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I've been wondering about this one, but in the end, while a crook and a spree killer, he did care much for his family, especially his son.

Date: Dec. 14th, 2013 12:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mycha-kk.livejournal.com
Thanks! I loved your HP userpics too (and hugs from fellow HHr shipper!), the Eowyn one killed me XD as well the cartooned SW ones :) and Poirot! I'll steal those too ;)
Edited Date: Dec. 14th, 2013 12:39 pm (UTC)

Date: Dec. 14th, 2013 12:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] philstar22.livejournal.com
I'm a serious icon addict. That's the only reason why I keep my paid account.

Date: Dec. 14th, 2013 05:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mycha-kk.livejournal.com
That is a good reason to do so :D
Edited Date: Dec. 14th, 2013 05:28 pm (UTC)

Date: Dec. 17th, 2013 01:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] full-metal-ox.livejournal.com
The Red Herrings ("UnSchmuck" has become the house term") are a topic unto themselves--often, like Chris, embodying the show's recurrent message that Subcultures Don't Kill People, Bad And/Or Messed-Up People Kill People.

Date: Dec. 17th, 2013 01:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mycha-kk.livejournal.com
watched it... it was horrible. to think she lived like that. husband, kids... poor woman...

Date: Dec. 23rd, 2013 03:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wizardelfgirl.livejournal.com
Oh that's right! I'd forgotten this episode until yestertday when I watched it and yes, I cried my eyes out!

Date: Dec. 23rd, 2013 03:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wizardelfgirl.livejournal.com
I don't remember the woman from Bosnia, do you know the season and episode?

Date: Dec. 23rd, 2013 03:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mycha-kk.livejournal.com
Season 5 Outfoxed (ep 8. the one that leads to the #100 episode)

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