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This is the discussion post for episode 9 x 04: "To Bear Witness." As always, be forewarned that the comment thread will contain spoilers.

Date: Oct. 17th, 2013 12:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ruralstar.livejournal.com
So the gore factor was pretty high last night. Curiously though I think the subject matter dinged the top of the creepy meter. I don't know a lot of people who can comfortably watch a movie or tv show that features torture to a person's eyes. Psychological mind twist came in the form of Sam's paralysis and desperate attempts to communicate with Derek. Not sure I really bought big D in that sensitive role. I think that was more of a Reid job. Blake isn't good with touchy feely stuff as witnessed by her awkward comforting of the shooting victim in the last episode. Everyone else had things to do. Overall a pretty disturbing one off story.

The underlying plot arc of JJ and the new section chief... I really hope this was not an affair. Their association took place during JJ's year away from the team, which means she was with Will. The timing was confirmed by the conversation in front of the elevator where they referred to a case that was nearly 3 years in the past. This is year 9 and Will and JJ have been together in one way or another since the end of s2. Obviously JJ's association with the chief began through work but JJ's discomfort with the breakfast idea, the 'we can't keep meeting like this' comment and the lies in the car... Yeah, it doesn't look good. And no way this guy just found about his new job the same day he took the position. Sloppy writing or maybe they are going somewhere with this? He seems a little too put together to be some sort of stalker...

Date: Oct. 17th, 2013 05:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] periantari.livejournal.com
Not sure I really bought big D in that sensitive role. I think that was more of a Reid job.
I agree...i felt that Morgan would've been more apt to surround Anton at the end and have a more violent showdown than to be with the mentally disabled Sam.

I think the JJ and Cruz arc will go further for i think it's not done with explaining yet. Also, her fellow team members will definitely see something. I half thought that Rossi was going to say something else at the elevator.

Date: Oct. 17th, 2013 07:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mycha-kk.livejournal.com
Ditto on the gore. I hardly ever flinch at CM, but anything with eyes and I'm all squirmy and sick... The most disturbing episode for me is the one with taxidermist... This one come as the second...

I actually liked Morgan working with the patient. I don't think he was ssupposed to be touchy-feely, he was efficient and that's what was needed. Personally I find Morgan's mostly slightly aloof, maybe even detached attitudes in character considering his history (the abuse); and I think he's quite private and distrusting so he feels truly relaxed Only with his loved ones: Garcia, JJ, Reid, Emily in the past...

I was wondering about the case JJ worked with the new chief and the timeframe. It ddoes seem there might more to it, I think. I thought Rossi will say something at the end but then again he is quite discreet so he Kay be quiet for a while.

Date: Oct. 17th, 2013 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] techbychance.livejournal.com
Not sure I really bought big D in that sensitive role. I think that was more of a Reid job.

Actually, that part worked very well for me, reminded me of him with the boy victim in Foundation. I think it’s a nice contrast to Derek’s usual role in the investigation, keeps things fresh that way.

Cruz seeking out Derek in his office after the case really surprised me. I wonder what was up with that?

As for JJ and Cruz, I really hope they don’t / didn’t have an affair but the family theory mentioned above doesn’t work that well for me, either. I guess I’ll just wait and see what comes out of this one.

By the way, did this episode remind anybody else of Legacy? With the LDSK episode last week, it seems to me like we might get CM’s greatest hits revisited this season. I sure wouldn’t complain if this turns out to be a trend.

Date: Oct. 18th, 2013 08:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mycha-kk.livejournal.com
I love Legacy (I think my favorite episode ever) but this one hasn't reminded me of it (though the torture scenes where similar, kind of...). But then again I love Legacy because of the OCD cop plot and the shivering idea of such a sufficient home-cleaner...)

But the idea of revisiting the previous great episodes me likes :)

Date: Oct. 18th, 2013 09:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] techbychance.livejournal.com
Admittedly, I haven’t watched that episode in ages but that made me all the more surprised when it came to the forefront of my mind right from the beginning. I guess it was the setup, the warehouses and especially the way Anton let Sam escape, the very first scene of this episode where Sam struggled his way through the rat-infested corridor on his bare feet in his desperate attempt to escape. Only the shards of glass were missing.

Date: Oct. 19th, 2013 02:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] a_blackpanther
That was definitely a Legacy throw-back! And yes, I hope this trend continues as well.

Date: Oct. 19th, 2013 02:39 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] a_blackpanther
The thing is, they didn't really show much - but they implied it all in the squeakiest way possible. I love that device CM uses quite often, as much as I hate the squick.

Derek has been the sensitive one before - and I think that worked for me. But I think reid should have also been there as he might have found a way to communicate better/faster with the poor guy.

I doubt JJ is having and affair though. Something is going on, but not that.

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