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This is the discussion post for episode 4x02 "The Angel Maker". Watch out for SPOILERS in the comments.

Date: Oct. 1st, 2008 08:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreamsingr17.livejournal.com
God Reid was so hot in this episode!

I loved Emily "He's so life like!"

Date: Oct. 2nd, 2008 04:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vomitsmoothie.livejournal.com
I know! I kept squirming, my bf started looking at me funny...

Date: Oct. 1st, 2008 10:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] midnight-coffee.livejournal.com
Erm, I'm a bit confused now. Isn't CM supposed to air on Wednesday nights? Did the time schedule change? *lives in Germany and has no clue at all* ;)

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Date: Oct. 1st, 2008 03:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asthenie-vd.livejournal.com
lovely XD

I like her blank face when she makes the "life-like" comment.
The humour was great in this episode

Date: Oct. 1st, 2008 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meg-tdj.livejournal.com
LOL!!! That was so hilarious. :D

Date: Oct. 1st, 2008 09:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chelseabagel.livejournal.com
I am defs taking that icon. It's so awesome.

Date: Oct. 2nd, 2008 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dustbunny105.livejournal.com
LOL! Snatching, will credit if used.

Date: Oct. 2nd, 2008 02:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antoinettemason.livejournal.com
lmao that was my favorite bit!

ganking this, will credit.

Date: Oct. 2nd, 2008 03:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ohshiznaps.livejournal.com
totally taking this! thanks much

Date: Oct. 1st, 2008 04:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] asthenie-vd.livejournal.com
First thing I noticed about the episode?
The quotes are back!
I kinda missed them last time. :)

Date: Oct. 2nd, 2008 06:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crowinator.livejournal.com
Me too! I kept wondering what was off last time, and that was it! I was worried they were going to take them away.

Date: Oct. 1st, 2008 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalldoro.livejournal.com
Also, this season we're getting an Emily storyline. I hope so, I'd love to get to know her better. She's still a bit of a mystery to me.

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Date: Oct. 1st, 2008 08:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] honoursociety.livejournal.com
God, I loved this episode. Way better than Mayhem, I thought. I had no clue who the Un Sub was until the team found it - just like it should be! Doesn't it suck when you know who it is from the very beginning (which does happen sometimes)?

My friend and I have an ongoing bet for this season. She bets she can correctly guess 10 unsubs before the team does; I bet I could guess 10 victims (opening scenes don't count.)

I miss Reid's long hair! His monologue about cracking the code was fricking hilarious.

Date: Oct. 2nd, 2008 02:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saturniia.livejournal.com
I miss Reid's long hair!

*That's* what so different! My carrier was having some small problems with audio, so I didn't hear the dialogue with that explanation. I spent the rest of the episode wondering what was different... thanks for the explanation.

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Date: Oct. 1st, 2008 08:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalldoro.livejournal.com
This episode was very quiet after the last one, but it feels just right. :) I loved it. The "He's so life like" moment was TEH AWESOMEPANTS!

Also, poor Hotch! What's going to happen to Hotch. When they were standing outside the house and the un-sub came out I just knew that the shooting was going to hurt his ear. I was a little worried that he'd lose his hearing right there!

I'm really excited about this season, I have a feeling it's going to be good.

Date: Oct. 1st, 2008 09:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chelseabagel.livejournal.com
Poor Hotch's ears~! D: Though he should have taken the time off. Silly Hotch.

I loved this episode's Reid moments. He let his true nerd shine! :D

and ew@dead body in dead!babys room.

Date: Oct. 2nd, 2008 04:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atari363.livejournal.com
and ew@dead body in dead!babys room.

YES. THIS WAS SO GROSS. For some reason, it creeped me out more than all the other dead bodies I've seen on TV.

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Date: Oct. 2nd, 2008 02:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] maisontv.livejournal.com
- Coming to the Natti! Call me Reid! *phone fingers* Your haircut is adorable! (MGG seems to be like me, cutting his hair only once it gets to a certain length)

- Oh cool, the quote is from one of my favorite authors. I've read Fight Club about a hundred times.

- "Evil twin....eviler twin." *snort* ilu Reid

- Aw, Hotch, baby, go lie down somewhere quiet.

- Come on, Reid. You solved the Fisher King cypher, you can crack this code easy.

- The sky is rarely that clear in the O.H.

- "He's so lifelike." BWAH! Also, it's nice that Em is part of the family now and takes part in poking fun at Baby Brother Reid.

- Aw, poor woman. Even evil dead babies are sad.

Date: Oct. 2nd, 2008 02:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saturniia.livejournal.com
lol... Just saw the "He's so lifelike" quip when I typed this. I love it!
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Date: Oct. 2nd, 2008 02:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saturniia.livejournal.com
Well, we've never seen Reid drive the others before. Usually, it's the others driving him; I can recall Hotch and Garcia definitely so doing. Reid did have his own SUV in the finale/premiere, but driving the others? Didn't see it.

Date: Oct. 2nd, 2008 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcgarrygirl78.livejournal.com
I am so in love with this episode. Hotch in pain, OMG, I was like falling over. Hotch/Prentiss moments, oh I fall over and squee. The case, the Unsub, ROSSI!!!!!!!!!!! I know, I know, I am such a Rossi-fangirl. And did I mention Prentiss? She was so excellent in this episode. You go girl, figuring out those constellations.

And I loved her moments with Morgan, and with Garcia in the car talking about clowns. OMG, I am so damn afraid of clowns. I hope Hotch took the long way home but I so know he didnt. He didnt even hear his cell phone ringing, you think he would have had it on vibrate, um hello. And extra squee for Prentiss making sure he was alright at the gravesite.

All in all a wonderful episode and I am all a twitter for next week. My show is BACK!!!!!!!

Date: Oct. 2nd, 2008 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dustbunny105.livejournal.com
Great ep. Very quiet compared to the opener, and quite creepy.

Haha, Hotch trying to get the doctor to sign him off for duty. I love how she tells him not be around loud noises (at the risk of LOSING HIS HEARING. Does he think he'll be back on the field after THAT?) and he places himself in position to hear loud noises throughout the episode. Good to see him be sensible and drive at the end.

I don't quite know what I think about Reid's hair. Not that it looks bad or anything, but I've grown rather fond of it long.

Is it bad that my first suspicion when the DNA test matched the original Angel Maker, I immediately thought, "Ew, someone's been just holding on to samples of his jizz?" I squirmed for five seconds before a twin even occurred to me. Of course the former supposition turned out to be correct, but I feel odd for having jumped to that conclusion first. Also, the fact that the guy is called something like "Angel-Maker" and his legacy is passed on... did anyone else have somewhat inappropriate thoughts of comic book supervillians? And, er, giggle?

GARCIA GOT GROPED BY A FRIGGIN' CLOWN WHEN SHE WAS A KID. I made such a face when she relayed that story. Almost choked on my own spit, too. I'm right there with her about people hanging pictures of clowns painted by John Wayne Gacy on their walls. Struck me as funny, at first, that she fixated on the clown part.

I kinda felt sorry for that one woman, the guy's "lover". When they showed her in the cop car, I was like, "She didn't... did she? She did. Great Mother McGree, she totally did!"

... It was easier for Reid to write the lines out by hand than to use a computer. It was easier to DO IT BY HAND than to USE A COMPUTER. I love you, Reid. If I ever forget why I love you, I have things like this to look back on. LOL at Prentiss and her "so lifelike" crack; the straight face really packed the deal.

Aww... I felt bad for Chloe, losing the baby she was looking forward to. Even if she was looking forward to it because she's a tad deranged. I missed a few minutes, did they touch on whether she would have started killing if she hadn't lost the baby? I can't recall if continuing the murders was the plan all along or not. What I don't get is why she didn't just impregnate herself again. She had more semen.

Am I the only one who found it funny-- not necessarily in a haha way, just... I dunno, funny-- when Chloe threatened to kill that lady (forget her name already, doggonit...) if she didn't stay still and shut up or whatever? I mean, she was gonna kill her anyway, and it must have been pretty obvious.

OMG, SHE STABBED HERSELF WITH A FREAKING SCREWDRIVER. I mean, I kinda suspected she would, but still. EWEWEWEWOWOWOWOWEWWWWW. OW.

YAY, Reid gets to drive! His face when Morgan tosses him the keys is priceless. I love the bickering in general, really, it's adorable.

I've been hearing that there might be more about Emily, and I thought this episode sort of implied it. I'm looking forward to that like whoa. Also looks like there might be some fairly deep Hotchiness still to come.

Stupid question, more general than show-related. Obviously this sort of thing happens in real life, and probably there's a really obvious answer to this that I'm totally missing. But if these people are all aware that someone is killing women alone in their homes, why would any woman stay alone in her home? Without at least upping her security? I personally would be sleeping standing up in my closet with a baseball bat.

Date: Oct. 2nd, 2008 03:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dustbunny105.livejournal.com
Also, is it just me or would that "lady-killer" comment have totally flown on one of the CSI shows?

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Date: Oct. 2nd, 2008 03:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ohshiznaps.livejournal.com
I could almost feel Hotch's pain.. i liked that they added that faint ringing noise every time.

all the poking fun at reid moments <3

evil twin.. and EVILER twin [dun dun ddduuunnnn]

OMG NEXT WEEK :0

Date: Oct. 2nd, 2008 04:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atari363.livejournal.com
Prentiss is so awesome. She's always got a feeling something is wrong and figures it out.

And did anyone else notice how creepy the dead unsub's face was when Prentiss and the cop were bending over? It was really weird looking in the shadows. I'm probably the only one who thought this... yeah I'm weird.

Evil twin...and eviler twin *blank stares* This cracked me up.

Do we have parachutes on the plane? Maybe we can give one the the elephant on board. LOL I love Rossi. Always have, always will.

"A clone of myself and a years supply of Adderall." What a sweetie. And he cracked that code in a matter of minutes.

Date: Oct. 2nd, 2008 11:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcgarrygirl78.livejournal.com
Woo-hoo!!!! I love Rossi too, and Emily and they both had moments to shine in this episode. The groupie/Barry Manilow had me dying. I can just imagine some of the weird chicks that might have followed Rossi around. I think that was the first time that we actually got to see them have a conversation and Emily is really coming out of her shell and showing herself to be a damn good FBI agent.

Date: Oct. 2nd, 2008 09:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chibi-nezu.livejournal.com
Anyone got a Youtube link for the preview of the next episode?

Date: Oct. 2nd, 2008 06:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] astral-angel.livejournal.com
First of all - yay, the quotage is back. And Chuck Pahlunuk!

Ew, creepy unsub that stabs herself with a screwdriver. Can we all say yuck? Though, you have to wonder, did she stand there holding the paper template up and stab herself with the other hand? Cause she'd have to be pretty strong - though maybe she didn't go all that deep. There wasn't much blood. And this is why I shouldn't have four cups of coffee in the morning.

Ands yays, because Prentiss! Who is teh awesomeness in this, because really, seeing the constellations in the stab wounds? Awesome. Although, I may be overstressing this because the only constellations I can really identify is the Southern Cross and Orion's Belt. He's so lifelike. Oh, Em, you're starting to really fit in with them. And yay, we might actually be getting backstory about Em! On the aside, I'm pretty sure we haven't, but does anyone know if we know anything about her father?

Oh, Hotch, your ringing ears make my ears hurt. But dude, I understand ... but you're clearing me anyway, right? Hotch misses being on duty. *grins* 'Cause that's not like Hotch, at all. And ouch, because a torn ear drum? Painful to the nth degree, especially when you're standing next to a gun that's just gone off. And I loved the byplay between Hotch and Rossi and Prentiss and the whole switch over when it came to who went to help him.

And Rossi/Prentiss banter! Lol, Barry Manilow and groupies. Did anyone else find the crazy ladies crazy?

Garcia didn't have a lot of byplay in this, but wow, the clown bit? Her one real scene in the episode and geez, Kristen Vangsness, can you not be such an awesome actress? Apparently, laughing while you do it makes it all right. Oh Garcia, you make me feel like crying sometimes. Though Emily and Morgan's reactions were great. And ew, clowns.

Reid, who finds that working out a binary code is easier to do by hand than on the computer. Reid, we &hearts you for your geekiness. And team? The silence was so the perfect reaction. And short hair! Yay, new season haircut time. Evil twin and ... eviler twin.

JJ, whose elusive stomach will never be seen. Lol, am I the only one who thinks that the fact that they don't show it is so obvious?

Date: Oct. 2nd, 2008 06:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ohshiznaps.livejournal.com
i know. i dont know WHY they aren't showing her belly, we all know shes pregnant. everyone knows shes pregnant.

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