Need help for a potential Criminal Minds/Dexter crossover

[liliaeth]

I've been watching Dexter lately, and the more often I watch s2, my fave season, the more I start thinking of what would have happened if Dexter had had to deal with the BAU instead of Frank Lundy.

So anyone feel like helping me out in how the BAU would profile the Bay Harbor Butcher? And what differences there'd be in how the gang would deal with the case, in comparison to how it was dealt with on the show?

And most of all, can anyone explain to me, why so far I've found only one CM/Dexter crossover? Because I've been wanting one, since I first started watching Dexter
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Comments

[took-skye.livejournal.com]

First...I think that the BAU would likely profile the Bay Harbor Butcher much like profiler Frank Lundy did on Dexter...only much, much, more efficiently since, haha, there's a team of them!

Second...I think vivier hit the nail on the head as to why there aren't many CM/Dexter crossovers...everyone would be torn rooting for both and, really, only one could win, haha!

Third...Good luck, brave writer! (The CM/Dexter idea has crossed my mind myself but, again, only one can win and I can't pick which, haha!!!) :D

[djan31.livejournal.com]

This is completely useless, but is Dexter a good show? I've heard it is, but never actually had the chance to watch it...

[pink-siamese.livejournal.com]

I have this one friend on my f-list who is always begging me to a) write Dexter fanfic, or b) write a Dexter/CM crossover. But I'm always begging her to write Alien femmeslash, so I guess we're even.

I think a crossover could be done, but it would take a very skilled writer to pull it off. It would take some doing to balance the tensions between Dexter fans (who root for him) and CM fans (who root for the team) in order to create a story that is satisfying overall--ultimately it would require the kind of skill on the part of the writer that can convince readers to go along with completely different presentations of well-known characters.

That's a lot of work. I'd have to have a burning fever for the characters and the kind of fabulous plot that is so shiny and awesome that all that bright shininess keeps you awake at night. Since that kind of celestial convergence doesn't happen very often, that's probably why there aren't enough Dexter/CM crossovers.

[nytekit.livejournal.com]

Okay, I'm going to come back and actually give a response to your question, but I just wanted to say that I have always considered a crossover! Same as you, once I started watching Dexter I instinctively wanted to pit them against each other!!!

That being said, I'll be back later with -hopefully - useful advice.

[lunamazes.livejournal.com]

I really like this one.

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5604424/1/Sharks_in_Suits

[bbt-criminal.livejournal.com]

i personally think the BAU, oddly enough Hotch in particular, would be more sympathetic in their profile of Dexter than Lundy was. They see enough in their day to day work that someone extracting a little vengeance might be appreciated. i might go off-canon and have Dex kill Foyet so the guilt isn't on Aaron's conscience. this way, they're not opposed. i might be tempted to read Dexter fic written by CM fans; the stuff I have tried to read just squicked me right out. Most folks seem to ignore the code altogether and also turn poor Dex into some kind of pedophile. It's enough to make me wish Astor was never on the show at all.

[lastrega.livejournal.com]

There's a really brilliant vid that's a Dexter/CM xover.

Convenient Parking (http://cherryice.livejournal.com/233759.html).

[dragonladyk.livejournal.com]

That would be exceptionally difficult since the two shows have diametrically opposite themes. Criminal Minds is a show that condemns the actions serial killers take as men and stands completely opposed to the idea of glorifying violence and mythologizing serial killers. The CM PTB show us the grieving families serial killers leave behind and the ambiguity of vigilantes who can be and often are wrong. Sympathy for what made a serial killer what he is is often par for the course, but his actions are always viewed as ultimately flawed or reprehensible.

Dexter, on the other hand, glorifies the vigilante actions of its protagonist. We don't see the full horror and devastation his actions would leave behind in the real world, we aren't to feel horror at them. His acts of violence are to be rooted for and the audience is to hope he does not get caught so he can continue.

Personally I find Dexter to be deplorable. Serial killers should not be mythologized, painted as heroes or in any way admirable, ever. The devastation they leave behind is far too great.

DragonLady

[bbt-criminal.livejournal.com]

Devastation to the families of the people Dexter killed? With only a couple of exceptions they were all truly bad people. I don't have much sympathy for their families. Families make you what you are, and if you're a bad person, well, thank your folks.
Doakes' family deserves to know that he didn't do it, but i doubt they'll bring that up at any point. Any murders Dexter gets convicted for will not include the ones covered by the Bay Harbour Butcher investigation- too embarrassing for the cops. Will he ever get caught? I imagine he will either grow a conscience and turn himself in, or possibly Deb/Angel will kill him.
I'm not sure that the fanbase can really be said to be rooting for him. I certainly don't watch the show for the plastic-wrap moments. It's the psychology of Dexter that keeps me coming back. Same as with CM, I want to know what it is that makes killers different. This is just a much longer explanation.
I kinda wish that Dexter's brother had turned out to be his exact opposite. That would lend some credence to the big build-up they did about Dex being raised to kill by Harry. As it stands, they're falling back on a single traumatic experience to explain everything, which is lame. It takes years of serious abuse to make a serial murderer.
Any Dexter/CM crossover is seriously limited by the expectation that the BAU always gets their guy, true. An in-depth explanation of the sort so readily provided by Dr. Reid would be totally out of place in the Dexter universe. CM is far too realistic for that to work. Dexter is a cartoon compared to any character on CM.

[cannualiciat.livejournal.com]

Holy crap...I totally said it would be my favorite crossover ever on a dexter forum a few weeks back. Can you share that one cross over?