Rachel Confirms s7 Casting Spoilers

[x-forgetromeo.livejournal.com]

 


I'd like to take this opportunity to say that whether or not you loved/hated Ashley Seaver, Rachel Nichols as an actress is a human being who did not deserve to be sidelined liked this. She obviously loved her job and her co-workers, and is justifiably upset about this. 

CBS pulled the same stunt with Rachel that they did with AJ and Paget last year. Please keep that in mind. CBS might have fixed one of the symptoms by bringing AJ and Paget back, but they have in no way solved the problem of treating their actresses as disposable.

If you can, please send Rachel some love on twitter. 

Comments

[blue-sunflowers.livejournal.com]

Except yeah, it is how businesses work. I worked for Sears and Montgomery Ward, and every store in the mall did the same thing. Seasonal workers were just that: seasonal. Teaching does the same thing too. Budgets get cut, it's the new teachers who go. The "low man on the totem pole" analogy works just fine for the real world, since that's how the real world works.

AJ was fired because she was the low man on the totem pole in the Paget/Thomas/Joe/Kristen/MGG/Shemar train. Paget and Joe, while they came after her, ranked higher than her. While Kristen had a lower salary (based on her position in the credits) she has a massive fanbase - that was noted at the time AJ was fired. So AJ may not have been the lowest time-wise, she definitely was necessity wise. She was then replaced by a lower man on the pole. AJ returning keeps Rachel in the bottom, so yeah, she's the one to go. If Rachel had managed to attain Urkel popularity, she'd still be staying, lowest time or not.

And uh...I've never told anyone their opinions don't matter. In fact, if you'd actually read my comments you'll see several times I've said the exact opposite. You're entitled to your opinion. Much like I'm entitled to point out all the problems with the "CBS is sexist" and "Rachel was treated poorly" complaints. Which is what I'm doing. I'm sorry if that makes you *feel* your opinion doesn't matter, but that's not my fault.

You're picking apart *my* statements, so there's no difference in what I'm doing versus what you're doing. Unless of course, you're doing it because you ARE telling me my opinion doesn't matter. But that would make you...well, employing a double standard.

[sodoesrachael.livejournal.com]

I've read through most of the comments on this post, and my main issue is that you're presenting your *opinions* as fact. Which they're not. Okay, maybe that's how it works a lot of the time in the television industry, but it's certainly not true in every case, just as your analogies don't work every time in the real world. It's a case by case basis. Not every business works from the same model, obviously, and saying "this is how it works" is not true. That's how it works sometimes, not all the time. You're making blanket statements to encompass a very massive industry, which I doubt you know everything about. They're generalizations, not solid fact.

But even so, stating the obvious, that people in charge suck, is not going to make anyone feel better or be less upset over how Rachel Nichols was fired. Even if she didn't find out on Twitter, it was still very sudden, and as of a week ago she was sure she was returning for the seventh season, and now all of a sudden she's not. That would suck. How would you feel in her position? I don't think you'd just 'get over it' because 'that's how it works.' Getting fired sucks balls. I know that and I've never even been fired. And no, she wasn't 'suspecting it', not if her Twitter is any indication. But then, when your boss tells you, 'you're not getting fired' you tend to believe them, no?

Okay, though, YOU don't feel sorry for her because "it's the industry." Fine, have at it. But no matter how many times you tell me "that's just how it works" (which is not true anyway), it's not going to change anything, except my irritation level. That's what I mean by you making it seem like other people's opinions don't matter. I wasn't even talking about me, but other people on who've commented. Isn't there a saying "the world sucks and then you die?" Yes, there is. Or something to that extent. But should everyone just be pessimists and expect terrible things to happen all the time? No, I don't think so. Yes, bad things happen, in business, in school, in *life.* But not many people sit around harping on them all the time. I doubt Rachel did. But now, she's down a job. I, for one, feel very bad for her, and am very mad at CBS for being complete douche-bags once more.

[blue-sunflowers.livejournal.com]

I've read through most of the comments on this post, and my main issue is that you're presenting your *opinions* as fact. Which they're not.

Unless you're considering yourself as doing the exact same thing, then you have no case and are pretty much acting the hypocrite here. Sorry pointing out that Rachel's situation is "just how things work" - and backing the statement up - irritates you, but again, not my fault. TV is littered with actors and actresses fired after only a short stint on the show when it became clear they weren't working out and/or the network just didn't want to shell out the money to pay for them anymore. And it's certainly not telling you that you can't be pissed because even though I'm pointing out that's the way things work that for some reason ALSO means I'm telling you that makes it fair. Since uh, no. I never said that, and in fact said the exact opposite.

So sorry, I'm not really feeling it for Rachel. Not only was she new to the job, but also in a situation where this was expected. Her character was never well-received, and unnecessary for the show anyway. Rachel'll be perfectly fine finding a fit somewhere else. For one, she's already got a part in the new Conan the Barbarian movie, so she won't be hurting for money. So no, I'm not gonna waste time shedding tears for her. Rachel bounced back just fine after being cut from GI Joe 2.

And no, as of a week ago Rachel wasn't sure she was returning. That's a fact. She was hoping. She even stated in her tweet "crossing my fingers things don't change". That's a clear indication she knew things were NOT a done deal. "Slated to return" is not the same as "Guess what! I'm definitely returning!" Not even Erica Messner went so far as to say Rachel was definitely returning. At most, she said JJ coming back doesn't necessarily mean Seaver is leaving. Messner I'm sure wanted Rachel to stay. It wasn't up to Messner though, since Messner doesn't pay the bills. CBS and ABC Studios clearly didn't want to pay for 8 full-time regulars, which isn't surprising. BTW, it's also been reported since AJ's return was announced, that Rachel was on shaky ground to begin with. I highly doubt Rachel was unaware of her precarious situation. She basically had to pray Paget wouldn't return in order for her own job to stay safe.

And I never said people should be expecting bad things to happen to them in the real world. Actors though should, since that's pretty much the entire point of the industry. It's one of the cruelest ones out there. Even the Occupational Outlook Handbook says your chances of success are extremely low. But whatever, continue to misread my statements as me telling everyone they're wrong to feel sorry for Rachel, when I never did. Just that I'm not.

And if you'd read most of the comments here, you'll note I've said all this before. So since it appears the only thing you're interested in is personally telling me off simply because A) you don't like what I'm saying; B) I'm pointing out problems with the complaints here; and B) I don't automatically see Rachel as some poor doe-eyed perfectly innocent victim of the Big Bad Corporate World, I'll move on from this conversation, since I'm not interested in a continuing with this fairly useless catfight.

[sodoesrachael.livejournal.com]

You don't give up, do you? I'm completely and utterly uninterested in your opinions. You know what nice people do in situations like this? They state their opinion clearly *once* and move on, they don't go through the comments and piss off all the people who disagree with them, like you seem to be doing. (That's trolling, fyi.) I only commented to you in the first place for that reason, because I'm sick of people using the internet as their hunting grounds. But as they say, there's no use kicking a dead horse.

So you know what? Do what you want. Have fun. This is the very reason I've been staying away from this community, so thanks for the reminder.

Peace out.