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Re: sorry to butt in
Date: Nov. 13th, 2008 04:23 am (UTC)I don't understand how? We're adults; we can fill in the mechanics, and the rest is boredom on screen.
Re: sorry to butt in
Date: Nov. 13th, 2008 04:29 am (UTC)Re: sorry to butt in
Date: Nov. 13th, 2008 04:38 am (UTC)Well, yeah. Obviously.
Who the father is will also be a part in that.
Not necessarily.
If she was just pregnant and then not pregnant and here was a baby and a man we only vaguely remembered, It would be really shitty writing.
If she was pregnant and came back after her maternity leave with her outside-of-work life worked out (or, you know, theoretically worked out: no battle plan ever survives contact with the enemy) and we only saw that story from her point of view, that would be perfectly valid writing, and also interesting - telling a 'familiar' story in a way that hasn't been done before.
Also, insisting that a character who's pregnant must have a visible partner in tow in order to endow her pregnancy/life choices with legitimacy is both lazy and dull writing.
Re: sorry to butt in
Date: Nov. 13th, 2008 04:45 am (UTC)I'm so terrible at defending my arguments, sorry, that's why I usually avoid these sort of things. I just really liked Bill and felt the need to defend him.
Re: sorry to butt in
Date: Nov. 13th, 2008 05:00 am (UTC)~shrugs~ To each their own. Quite apart from the issue of lazy storytelling, I can't understand a word that comes out of his mouth, so he's a loss to me either way. But as I said, um, four comments ago: I understand that others' mileage may vary.
Re: sorry to butt in
Date: Nov. 13th, 2008 05:03 am (UTC)Re: sorry to butt in
Date: Nov. 13th, 2008 05:08 am (UTC)'Jones' is indeed easier to understand, for the simple reason that I have it on DVD and can, as you say, watch with captions.
Re: sorry to butt in
Date: Nov. 13th, 2008 05:18 am (UTC)DVDS are wonderful inventions. I watch my s3 dvds over and over.
Re: sorry to butt in
Date: Nov. 13th, 2008 05:23 am (UTC)Re: sorry to butt in
Date: Nov. 13th, 2008 05:30 am (UTC)Re: sorry to butt in
From:Re: sorry to butt in
Date: Nov. 13th, 2008 07:59 am (UTC)Problem is that in the CM version of the BAU it is not a typical 9-5 job. Unless they wanted to keep JJ at the BAU and not going off to wherever the case may be - they need someone to stay at home with the kid. That is what Will is going to be doing. He's going to be a stay at home dad. Or if not stay at home at least stay in town dad. I don't think we are going to see much of him. Or if we do it will be very quick scenes - much like Haley was during the first two seasons.
Although your comment about people milage varying is dead on. If they had gone with the sort of story you are suggesting there would no doubt people complaining about that and wanting to see the father of JJ's baby.
Re: sorry to butt in
Date: Nov. 13th, 2008 11:00 am (UTC)Re: sorry to butt in
Date: Nov. 13th, 2008 06:57 pm (UTC)I hated the idea at first, but it just seems like a good one. JJ doesn't need a visible partner, but she has to have one in order to accentuate the happy family part. TV is full of single moms and characters who have family when it's convenient. Like brother/sister is someone with drug/bad entourage issues (and becomes an informant, when it a cop show), or no kids, or divorced with ex husbands being jack-asses. I think they're going to try for just the opposite of that here, and it's a good thing.
Re: sorry to butt in
Date: Nov. 13th, 2008 09:39 pm (UTC)Re: sorry to butt in
Date: Nov. 13th, 2008 12:09 pm (UTC)Perhaps because JJ, per canon, puts quite some time and effort into keeping her personal life out of sight of the profilers she works with every day, in order to get a bit of privacy?
Re: sorry to butt in
Date: Nov. 13th, 2008 10:06 pm (UTC)Per Ed Bernero, when AJ Cook announced her pregnancy the writer's room thought, 'Ooops, we'd better provide her with a boyfriend' (paraphrasing slightly because I can't be bothered looking up the exact quote)...see my comment above about pregnant characters needing to have visible partners in tow to endow their pregnancies/life choices with legitimacy.
Re: sorry to butt in
Date: Nov. 14th, 2008 11:55 am (UTC)It's just, for a show that's usually made of feminism and common sense, that quote kind of grates!
Re: sorry to butt in
Date: Nov. 14th, 2008 10:30 pm (UTC)Re: sorry to butt in
Date: Nov. 14th, 2008 08:24 pm (UTC)Re: sorry to butt in
Date: Nov. 14th, 2008 10:27 pm (UTC)Exactly...as I stated about three posts ago.
out of context it sounds rude, but it's not.
Rude or not, it really rubbed me up the wrong way. People respond differently to different things, I guess.
Re: sorry to butt in
Date: Nov. 14th, 2008 10:43 pm (UTC)I, for one, think they made a good decision that's both consistent with the character so far and that will lead to some interesting things.