That thing we are discussing about 5x01

[thelana.livejournal.com]

The dialog from the scene:
F: Do you want to see my scars? What do you think? Do you like them? Yours are gonna look just the same
H: My team
F: Your team, your team didn't catch me untill I wanted them to. You're not in charge so don't be foolish. Now try to relax. Your body will go numb (knife goes in) and it goes in so much easier if you relax. The hard part is not passing out from the pain. (Foyet pulls the knife our slowly) Now I understand that profilers think that stabbing is a substitution for the act of sex, that if somebody is impotent, they'll use a knife instead. Is that what you think agent Hotchner? Maybe this will change the way you profile. (knife goes in)

So what do you think did the scene mean?

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Comments

[maclou.livejournal.com]

I honestly think he was cut there. It's what I thought at the time and that's what I still think now. I mean first Foyet talked about knowing a lot about the body and knowing exactly where he had to cut, then he talked about the impotence and then he said maybe this will change the way you profile (or something like that), at that point I got VERY worried D: THEN his hands went down there, Hotch made a noise and it was obvious to me he cut him somewhere at least. I really got the impression that Foyet meant maybe Hotch would change the way he thought of whether impotent people would use knives for sex if he were impotent himself. I never thought of rape and I'm really surprised that so many people seem to be leaning that way, it was pretty obvious to me what happened.... But I could be wrong!

[seimei.livejournal.com]

I don't think there was enough blood for him to have been cut there. I mean, we saw the pool of blood when Emily first walked in, and there was a lot of blood but not enough to account for his stab wounds to the torso and being cut there.

Or maybe I just can't bare the though of that happening to Hotch.

[maclou.livejournal.com]

I think that's over thinking it a bit. Same with the person below who didn't think the angle of the stab was right. The show doesn't seemed overly concerned with realism. The scene with Reid acting like it was no big deal being shot above the knee shows that, I mean the guy who shot him was at completely the wrong angle to shoot him where he did and then the doctor going back and forth working on them with blood all over his hands without washing them?

Also someone posted a picture of the blood pool in the other post and mentioned that it wasn't smudged at all so that would probably mean no physical rape either.

[asatomuraki.livejournal.com]

I think analyzing the blood pool is over-thinking it, because he was lying on his back and stabbed mostly if not entirely on the front, so there should have been a bleed pattern around his body, not a nice, neat single puddle. In other words, several pools where the blood ran from the wounds over the sides of his body. Also, if he'd been cut in the junk, the blood pattern would have been longer(and probably with a dry patch near the middle of where his back was).

So, not saying none of that wasn't possible, but I am saying that set-dressers left a crime scene bloodstain that in to way resembled what would have occurred had it happened the way it had in Hotch's flashback.

The show doesn't have many boo-boos, but that blood stain was wrong, even from what we know of what happened. A set-dresser poured a can of red Caro on the carpet, that's all.

Like you said, the show isn't overly-concerned with realism -- which also means the claim of 'no smudging of the blood stain' is also moot.

[maclou.livejournal.com]

Yes that's what I meant, that the size of the blood stain doesn't discount him being cut there just like it not being smudged doesn't discount rape. But I've seen a lot of people using the size of the blood stain to say he wasn't stabbed in the groin and I'm saying if that meant anything then it would mean he wasn't raped wither. So basically I agree XD

[asatomuraki.livejournal.com]

Yeah, except I don't think he was cut in the privates. Mostly because he's back on the job next week. ;) But I guess we get to wait and see (and I expect it will be several episodes before anything comes out, one way or the other). Clever writers.