That thing we are discussing about 5x01

[thelana.livejournal.com]

The dialog from the scene:
F: Do you want to see my scars? What do you think? Do you like them? Yours are gonna look just the same
H: My team
F: Your team, your team didn't catch me untill I wanted them to. You're not in charge so don't be foolish. Now try to relax. Your body will go numb (knife goes in) and it goes in so much easier if you relax. The hard part is not passing out from the pain. (Foyet pulls the knife our slowly) Now I understand that profilers think that stabbing is a substitution for the act of sex, that if somebody is impotent, they'll use a knife instead. Is that what you think agent Hotchner? Maybe this will change the way you profile. (knife goes in)

So what do you think did the scene mean?

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Comments

[asatomuraki.livejournal.com]

I'm with you guys. I think they were making it look and feel a LOT like rape scene (or the beginnings of one). If Foyet was trying to refute the profile implying he was impotent (and I think that much is obvious) then all that "he just really likes stabbing as a metaphor" and "he was telling Hotch he was capable of having sex and expected Hotch to take his stabby word for it" just doesn't follow, as it would not alter the profile at all.

But, as someone else said, there are different definitions of rape or sexual violence. I have no doubts that Foyet was behaving sexually with Hotch, but that doesn't mean he had to take Hotch's clothes off to demean him sexually and prove that he (Foyet) could 'perform.'

It's an icky, squishy place that is broader and deeper than most definitions of what is and isn't rape. I have my doubts as to whether they'll 'go there' but I hope they do, because it could actually bring some awareness about male rape.

[iscaris.livejournal.com]

I have my doubts as to whether they'll 'go there' but I hope they do, because it could actually bring some awareness about male rape.

While a part of me feels that Hotch has been through enough damage and a confirmed sexual assault could be the breaking point, I would certainly be interested in seeing where they go with the rape of a main cast character. It is ripe for both something groundbreaking and powerful and something sloppy and poorly handled.

And I'm most concerned about how they will handle it if they do go there. Perhaps it is the setup of a crime procedural, but CM has not been particularly stellar at handling personal character issues/trauma/PTSD -- Reid's drug habit and, more specific to Hotch, the strong implication in "Natural Born Killers" way back in Season 1 that Hotch had an abusive childhood, and then... nothing.

[angstbunny.livejournal.com]

I'm most concerned about how they will handle it if they do go there

Same here. I really really want them to handle this well. I'm torn. Because I feel like CM has been outstanding in a lot of ways, with the way they go against expectations, the stereotypes, but at the same time, it has been SO crappy with its continuity. >.<

But the deconstruction of Aaron Hotchner has been a steady thread through the show since day one. So I don't want to believe that they don't have some sort of payoff to all this build-up and dread.