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SPOILER? about Hotch and how Ed Bernero really feels about Mandy...

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When will the Criminal Minds producers loosen up Hotch? — Roly
ADAM: To hear executive producer Ed Bernero tell it, they don't need to loosen him up at all. "We all believe that Hotch's stoic nature, his strength, his resolve, is one of the glues that holds the show together," Bernero says. "His unflinching portrayal of a true-believer G-man allows all the other characters to be a bit eccentric...  because there is a representation of the real FBI in Hotch." That said, Bernero promises the show's 100th episode will give fans a completely different view of Hotch.

  I can't find the exact article, but I read the other day in TV GUIDE that Ed Bernero will never work with Mandy again after he failed to show for the season 3 table read.  He also said that nobody on the cast misses Mandy and that Mandy really hurt the whole team at CM.  Basically, he had nothing nice to say.  When I find the article or link, I'll post it. 

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[erikssiren.livejournal.com]

I find the Mandy comments interesting. I makes me think of how John Barrowman came out about two years after working with Christopher Eccelston on the first new season of Doctor Who and said Chris was really a stick in the mud, basically, and was horrible to work with and he enjoyed working with David Tennant much more enjoyable. Although, Ed's comments are less personal than John's and indicate Mandy wasn't very well-behaved professionally.

Maybe they weren't allowed to say anything at the time, but it kind of ruins the show(s) a bit for me to hear there was tension off screen. I'm not saying everyone has to be happy go lucky 100 percent of the time, but still.

[madlori.livejournal.com]

Not sure how much tension there was before he left. Maybe some because MP was just kinda intense to work with. But when somebody says "see you in an hour at table read" and then never shows up and quits, that's gonna introduce some tension.

[hesnamewasperry.livejournal.com]

i never knew barrowman said that about eccleston 8<. too bad cause i think he made a brilliant doctor. tho no one beats tennant. tho now that you said this, i can totally remember the doctor/jack harkness having some weird tension between them on the 1st season. always thought it was just part of the acting, but maybe there was something else too.

totally off-topic. sorry.

[madlori.livejournal.com]

I remember seeing that article on CMF last week or the week before.

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icon luv ;)

[sassyback.livejournal.com]

I've heard a few comments about MP being a bit of a diva, so it's really no surprise. Really, I don't care how much the show you're on offends you, there's better and far more respectful ways to get off it. Ways that don't involve screwing your coworkers over.

[http://users.livejournal.com/_nextboldmove_/]

I know! It's a good thing that now everyone claims to like working with each other.

[0h-lala.livejournal.com]

I agree so hard. Honestly, I lost my respect for him when I found out.
Being a diva is one thing, but what he did was incredibly shitty. he screwed them over and didn't care about the effort and work they had been doing those 2/3 years.

[underhand-glory.livejournal.com]

Mandy's a talented actor but he's done this twice before-- bailed on shows that were well-received, Dead Like Me and Chicago Hope. I was disappointed at first, but ultimately unsurprised.

Personally, I like how the team is on more equal footing now that Gideon is gone. He sort of overpowered the team dynamic we have now

[flameturnedblue.livejournal.com]

DLM was actually cancelled after the second season :P:P

[thedamaged.livejournal.com]

I guess Mandy's left shows before and that he is a bit of a Diva, so really I don't think it was a surprise to anybody.

[aure1iano.livejournal.com]

Um, what is a G-man?

[underhand-glory.livejournal.com]

slang for fbi (government man) :)

[madlori.livejournal.com]

Remember, Garcia called Reid "junior G-man" in "Honor Among Thieves?" Hee.

[southrnbygrace.livejournal.com]

While I agree about Ed's description of Hotch, even the most hardcore G-men have lives outside of their job. I wouldn't want Hotch to change at work, but it would be nice to see him relax once in a while and not constantly be 'on duty'. :)

[annievh.livejournal.com]

love your icon!

[flameturnedblue.livejournal.com]

Ed's commented on this before (TV Guide, July (? '08):


Looking back on the whole experience, exec producer Ed Bernero admits Patinkin’s hasty exit was ultimately good for the show. “I’m actually glad it happened,” he says. “The whole cast gels much better now. There were times when having someone like Mandy on the show was not unlike having an alcoholic parent; you never really knew when things are going to go bad. I
realized that after he left. I would leave [work] every night fully
expecting to have to come back for some reason. That something would go
wrong. And you sort of realize after a couple of months that, ‘Wow,
everything is a lot calmer than it was.’”

Ouch!

[woodchoc-magnum.livejournal.com]

I second your ouch! I wonder what it was about Mandy (aside from his diva-tastic ways) that made everything so tense?

[artistic-angle.livejournal.com]

I totally loved Gideon and I was sad to see the character go, but I am absolutely not surprised that Ed feels the way he does (not wanting to work with Mandy again). If I recall well, he said Mandy's departure did have the potential of bringing the show down. I wouldn't want to work with him again either. Not because he left but because of the way he did it.

As for Hotch, I agree with and see what he means about Hotch but I think the man needs a break. Simple as that. Just for a tiny bit.

[joospjos.livejournal.com]

Oh yeah I remember reading about that in this article (I guess it's the same you read): http://www.tvguidemagazine.com/feature/exclusive-mandy-patinkin-speaks-2844.html

I'm kind of proud of Ed for having the guts to say that. :)

[never-at-home.livejournal.com]

That said, Bernero promises the show's 100th episode will give fans a completely different view of Hotch.

This kind of scares me. :O

[jujuberry136.livejournal.com]

Me too!

*is worried for 100th episode now*

But wait! Maybe by different view Ed means shirtless!Hotch. That's different than how we normally see him.

*nods*

[lupinella.livejournal.com]

By 'different view' I'm assuming he means naked & cuddled up with Reid?
*eyes shifting*

As to MP, love him as a stage performer, his Georges Seurat was the best. Doing Sondheim perfectly gives an actor major street cred. I've heard he is challenging to work with, but worth the effort. From a producer's standpoint, though, I am in total agreement with Bernero; an actor not showing up for a table read as a way to quit, well, he burnt that bridge to ash. Glad the dynamic works better backstage. The show's ability to make the apres-Gideon transition as smoothly as it reads certainly says a lot about the talent of the writers and actors.

I am glad that I got into the show right after he left because, having now obsessively watched all of the back episodes, I like the format for the team much better. Hotch is a more balanced leader (even with the Foyet attack) and everyone gets to shine. Plus, I couldn't get over what Gideon did in 'The Fisher King'.
As to Hotch, give him a break! He deserves some happiness. And cookies.

[sodoesrachael.livejournal.com]

By 'different view' I'm assuming he means naked & cuddled up with Reid?

I SECOND THE MOTION. :D

I never really liked Gideon. Then again, I really started watching the show when the fourth season began, and I like the team dynamic much better sans Gideon. He seemed to overpower the show, and I don't like that. There are more characters than just him...

Also, I really like the plot line they attached to MP's leaving. Doing a job like they do for that long is bound to leave a mark, and not everyone can handle it. I feel like it added some humanity to the show. Iono. Is that just me? Although I would've liked it if they'd had Reid a bit more affected by it, considering his already present daddy!issues... :P

[annievh.livejournal.com]

Ya know, I've been waiting for Hotch to break down for five seasons now - I mean, breaking down like in Omnivore, only worst (or better). It may be cruel, but I really wanna see it, the tears, the fear, whatever. He lost his son, for crying out loud, can't be stone-faced 24/7 when something like that happens to you.

my guess is Foyet will kidnap Haley - maybe Jack too - and Hotch will go Angsty about it. And then kill Foyet.

[lupinella.livejournal.com]

Okay, he can kill Haley... but not Jack.
Also, I'll give you the Hotch breakdown - as long as afterwards he gets closure and to a (mildly & still stressful) happier place.
With cookies & (eventually) someone to cuddle him.

[halfabubble.livejournal.com]

Sorry I'm pretty new to the fandom, but how did they manage to make Gideon have the exit he did if Mandy just up and left one day? Was that scene where he's writing the letter already filmed, to be a cliff hanger or something? idgi.

[sodoesrachael.livejournal.com]

Don't quote me on this, but I think they managed to convince MP to come and shoot that last scene... I think. Because he didn't "just leave," he never showed up for the 3rd season table read after their summer break after season two. The first show of S3, Doubt, was actually supposed to be a part of season two, but they postponed showing it because it was originally supposed to air right after the Virgina Tech shooting, and they didn't want to upset/offend anyone. So that's why MP is in that episode.