CriminalxMinds @ LJ

I loved the green screen stuff.

I never really saw Hotch/Elle chemistry, but that's mainly because Elle annoyed the crap out of me and I like to believe those where the happy times Hotch had with Hayley.

I also loved Hotch joking. He smiles a lot in the first season, too. He's just all around not as tense/boarder-line douchey.

Reid's hair bothered me so much. Like, I know he was sick and everything at the time, but it really only made him look worse. Of course, right now I'm not diging MGG's hair either, as its also making him look sick. I think between seasons 2 and 4 were the best times of his hair.

Also, I still kinda wish JJ refered to Reid as "Spence". It totally cut some of the show's tension. It also added to her motherly character.

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She still does. In one of this season's eps I noticed it for sure.

I also greatly miss the Morgan/Garcia banter which got lost somewhere between the beginning of S4 (hello "Girl you are my God given salvation. Don't you EVER stop talking to me") and now. I don't know what happened.

AND AND AND the witty way Garcia answered the phone. She is all just "Garcia here" or "speak" nowadays. Lazy writers. Lazy. Our girl is far cooler than that.

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I've only caught it once this entire season. She calls him "Spence" in that episode with Gavin Rossdale (or however you spell his name). "The Performer" was what it was called, right? But yeah. That was the first time I had heard it in a while.

And yeah. Idk what happened to their friendship. Its kinda...not flirty anymore? I don't get it. I dunno. Maybe she's just mad about him getting all lovey-dovey with that chick who's brother died. It was sweet when she did the office for him, though. :3

And yeah, Garcia seems less...Garcia-y. I miss when she was all "YAY~" with, like, EVERYTHING.

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I assumed their relationship changed because of Morgan temporarily taking the lead position on the team. There was one episode where they were once again on the plane and Morgan called her sweetheart or sweet girl and then corrected himself.

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Well hopefully since Hotch is back in charge, it'll go back to normal?

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mainly because Elle annoyed the crap out of me

Agreed. My mother is an Elle uber-fan and I don't get it.

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I don't it either. Her character was so detatched and...idk.

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I'm a stan and I could attempt to explain... but when I try to explain why I like less popular characters in other fandoms it usually doesn't help much. What one person likes might be what puts off another.

I love Elle because precisely because she's so detached and snarky and not at all warm and personable. She's pretty much a stone-cold bitch all the time and I like that. But I also sensed there were deeper layers that we never really got to see because she wasn't with us for a very long time. As a fanfic writer, she's my favorite to write, because she's one of the most intriguing to try to unravel the layers and figure out what makes her tick.

I much prefer Hotch/Elle to Hotch/Prentiss b/c frankly, I just can't seem to see what everyone else is seeing. I wanted to like them because they're so popular and my girl isn't coming back but it just didn't happen. So I still hang onto my OTP b/c they're both so similar... they're not particularly open books, both deeply damaged but not one to let on, and both dealt with that damage in very different ways. I would love to see how they'd interact after the ordeal Hotch went through with Foyet. And yes, I have started writing that fic lol.

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On Elle: word to your mutha.

I really like her cranky side, I think it differentiates her from every other "nice" character on tv. I think several of the things about her character that bugged people would have been further explained if she'd stayed on the show (the casting info gave some pretty pertinent information on her backstory).

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OMG really? You think you could help a new fan out and tell me where I can find it? Might be useful for fanfic purposes.

I'm always excited to find another Elle fan because it doesn't seem there are many of us. :)

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PMed you, it's long.

Elle fans seem to be few and far between. I like to think we're a special breed :).

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yes, I just received the pm. Thanks so much! That is going to be so hard for me to work with, though... delicate subject matter and all.

Yeah man, I just got into this show a few months ago and was bummed when I found out she left, and even more bummed fandom had such a hate-on for her, but then, I seem to like unpopular characters. I'm used to it :p

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Well, it's not strictly canon, and plenty of people don't know about it. May I ask what your fanfic's about? Not many people write Elle fic.

I tend to like difficult characters, too--it just seems to be the characters I think are really interesting are the characters everyone hates ;). There's a lot of hateorade in fandom for Gideon, now, and I thought Gideon was a great character (a douchebag, yes, but an interesting douchebag).

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I love Gideon! I can't decide if I love him more or Rossi. I guess what's always determined whether I like a character or not isn't whether I like them as a person, it's about how much they interest me as a character. IA with your assessment of Gideon's personality but he was a great character.

I've been working on this fic for a while and want to be finished (or mostly finished) before I start posting, because it's a long one (I think I'm at 10 chapters so far). It's basically about Elle being in trouble and coming to Hotch for help, and the whole team eventually ends up being involved. It's mainly about how I imagine her story might have gone after she left, leading into the case the team has to solve, and it's been extremely challenging (go me picking the two hardest characters to write), but a lot of fun to write. Oh, and it's Hotch/Elle, obv, them being my OTP and all. :p

And for a writer I sure have some shit grammar tonight lol

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OMG, you win icon war. That is amazing.

I like Rossi, too--can't help thinking the BAU must have been a very different place when Gideon, Ryan, and Rossi were rollin'.

Your story sounds awesome--just the kind of thing I like. I will have to keep an eye out for it :). Kickass.

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Hahah, ty on both counts! :D

I love writing Hotch/Elle. I've done two fics so far (took a break from the long fic for a smutty one-shot written for a challenge) and I hope I'll have time to write once school starts back up again. I wish there were more Hotch/Elle writers in the fandom (as in at the moment, I think I'm it), but that's what I get for coming in late, I guess.

Haha, I hope you like angst, b/c it's pretty angsty. My fanfic LJ is

sidewalkdr_fic, in case you're interested. /shameless self-promotion I'll probably x-post to the usual places.

ETA: inability to type

Edited Date: Jan. 10th, 2010 10:11 am (UTC)

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Hope you all don't mind me jumping into the Elle parade, but I seriously agree with all of you. I don't understand why most people really don't like Elle anymore (or at all), because what some people hated about her - I liked about her. I still want Elle to reappear, at least once, if not only because of the amazing parallels between herself and Hotch at the moment. Plus it would be interesting to see how she and Prentiss react to each other...

Also, regarding the fanfiction game - I've got an Elle-centric virtual series up here: http://vbctv.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=478

The general premise in in the "About" section, but it takes place two years after she leaves behind the mothership.

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Haha, I don't mind!

Thanks for that link! I'd never heard of that website before. I'll def check it out.

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Yeah, I agree it would be cool to see her back. I think it would be interesting to see Elle/Hotch interaction at this stage. There have been some seriously big changes since they were last close. (One of my very favorite scenes in the whole series is Hotch washing the blood off Elle's wall in TFK2 so she doesn't have to come home to that.)

Thanks for the link! Bookmarked to read.

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