[identity profile] ohshiznaps.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] criminalxminds
I was watching some early-season re-runs on A&E last night, and the early episodes of the show make me smile. i'm glad to see the show progress to where it is now.

here are a few things i noticed that are different from now, feel free to add on/ discuss:

Hotch and Elle chemistry. 

Reid's combed back, shorter hair

Reid's short sleeved button up plaid shirts

Morgan with hair.

Hotch making jokes

"Spence" / oddly maternal JJ

green screen flash backs to unsub behavior while explaining

Date: Jan. 10th, 2010 04:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kissmecait17.livejournal.com
mainly because Elle annoyed the crap out of me

Agreed. My mother is an Elle uber-fan and I don't get it.

Date: Jan. 10th, 2010 05:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cloudzrshibby.livejournal.com
I don't it either. Her character was so detatched and...idk.

Date: Jan. 10th, 2010 05:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iamtheliquorr.livejournal.com
I'm a stan and I could attempt to explain... but when I try to explain why I like less popular characters in other fandoms it usually doesn't help much. What one person likes might be what puts off another.

I love Elle because precisely because she's so detached and snarky and not at all warm and personable. She's pretty much a stone-cold bitch all the time and I like that. But I also sensed there were deeper layers that we never really got to see because she wasn't with us for a very long time. As a fanfic writer, she's my favorite to write, because she's one of the most intriguing to try to unravel the layers and figure out what makes her tick.

I much prefer Hotch/Elle to Hotch/Prentiss b/c frankly, I just can't seem to see what everyone else is seeing. I wanted to like them because they're so popular and my girl isn't coming back but it just didn't happen. So I still hang onto my OTP b/c they're both so similar... they're not particularly open books, both deeply damaged but not one to let on, and both dealt with that damage in very different ways. I would love to see how they'd interact after the ordeal Hotch went through with Foyet. And yes, I have started writing that fic lol.

Date: Jan. 10th, 2010 08:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] infinitlight.livejournal.com
On Elle: word to your mutha.

I really like her cranky side, I think it differentiates her from every other "nice" character on tv. I think several of the things about her character that bugged people would have been further explained if she'd stayed on the show (the casting info gave some pretty pertinent information on her backstory).


Date: Jan. 10th, 2010 08:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iamtheliquorr.livejournal.com
OMG really? You think you could help a new fan out and tell me where I can find it? Might be useful for fanfic purposes.

I'm always excited to find another Elle fan because it doesn't seem there are many of us. :)

Date: Jan. 10th, 2010 08:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] infinitlight.livejournal.com
PMed you, it's long.

Elle fans seem to be few and far between. I like to think we're a special breed :).

Date: Jan. 10th, 2010 08:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iamtheliquorr.livejournal.com
yes, I just received the pm. Thanks so much! That is going to be so hard for me to work with, though... delicate subject matter and all.

Yeah man, I just got into this show a few months ago and was bummed when I found out she left, and even more bummed fandom had such a hate-on for her, but then, I seem to like unpopular characters. I'm used to it :p

Date: Jan. 10th, 2010 09:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] infinitlight.livejournal.com
Well, it's not strictly canon, and plenty of people don't know about it. May I ask what your fanfic's about? Not many people write Elle fic.

I tend to like difficult characters, too--it just seems to be the characters I think are really interesting are the characters everyone hates ;). There's a lot of hateorade in fandom for Gideon, now, and I thought Gideon was a great character (a douchebag, yes, but an interesting douchebag).

Date: Jan. 10th, 2010 09:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iamtheliquorr.livejournal.com
I love Gideon! I can't decide if I love him more or Rossi. I guess what's always determined whether I like a character or not isn't whether I like them as a person, it's about how much they interest me as a character. IA with your assessment of Gideon's personality but he was a great character.

I've been working on this fic for a while and want to be finished (or mostly finished) before I start posting, because it's a long one (I think I'm at 10 chapters so far). It's basically about Elle being in trouble and coming to Hotch for help, and the whole team eventually ends up being involved. It's mainly about how I imagine her story might have gone after she left, leading into the case the team has to solve, and it's been extremely challenging (go me picking the two hardest characters to write), but a lot of fun to write. Oh, and it's Hotch/Elle, obv, them being my OTP and all. :p

And for a writer I sure have some shit grammar tonight lol

Date: Jan. 10th, 2010 09:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] infinitlight.livejournal.com
OMG, you win icon war. That is amazing.

I like Rossi, too--can't help thinking the BAU must have been a very different place when Gideon, Ryan, and Rossi were rollin'.

Your story sounds awesome--just the kind of thing I like. I will have to keep an eye out for it :). Kickass.

Date: Jan. 10th, 2010 10:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iamtheliquorr.livejournal.com
Hahah, ty on both counts! :D

I love writing Hotch/Elle. I've done two fics so far (took a break from the long fic for a smutty one-shot written for a challenge) and I hope I'll have time to write once school starts back up again. I wish there were more Hotch/Elle writers in the fandom (as in at the moment, I think I'm it), but that's what I get for coming in late, I guess.

Haha, I hope you like angst, b/c it's pretty angsty. My fanfic LJ is [livejournal.com profile] sidewalkdr_fic, in case you're interested. /shameless self-promotion I'll probably x-post to the usual places.

ETA: inability to type
Edited Date: Jan. 10th, 2010 10:11 am (UTC)

Date: Jan. 10th, 2010 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notcrzyjustalex.livejournal.com
Hope you all don't mind me jumping into the Elle parade, but I seriously agree with all of you. I don't understand why most people really don't like Elle anymore (or at all), because what some people hated about her - I liked about her. I still want Elle to reappear, at least once, if not only because of the amazing parallels between herself and Hotch at the moment. Plus it would be interesting to see how she and Prentiss react to each other...

Also, regarding the fanfiction game - I've got an Elle-centric virtual series up here: http://vbctv.com/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=478

The general premise in in the "About" section, but it takes place two years after she leaves behind the mothership.

Date: Jan. 10th, 2010 11:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iamtheliquorr.livejournal.com
Haha, I don't mind!

Thanks for that link! I'd never heard of that website before. I'll def check it out.

Date: Jan. 11th, 2010 09:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] infinitlight.livejournal.com
Yeah, I agree it would be cool to see her back. I think it would be interesting to see Elle/Hotch interaction at this stage. There have been some seriously big changes since they were last close. (One of my very favorite scenes in the whole series is Hotch washing the blood off Elle's wall in TFK2 so she doesn't have to come home to that.)

Thanks for the link! Bookmarked to read.

Date: Jan. 11th, 2010 09:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] infinitlight.livejournal.com
Added to my watch list, thanks! And I love angsty stories. I'm not much of a "fluffy fic" person.

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