The newest episode..

[ravenboo.livejournal.com]

Am I the only one that cannot face watching CM anymore after Zugzwang?? :(.

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[surreysmum.livejournal.com]

Actually, I'm anxious to see tonight's episode, since they are apparently going to acknowledge the events of last week (for once!), and I want to see how Reid is dealing with it.

I'm half of the opinion that last week is tied in somehow to the larger "stalker of the team" arc.

[ravenboo.livejournal.com]

I can't get his heartbroken face out of my mind. I'm sure the team will be there for him, but I wanted him to be happy. I wanted him to have Maeve and have her be part of the "family". I'm sure they''l find that the stalker has knowledge of what happened too, and probably pictures to torment Reid with even more...

[watching-ghosts.livejournal.com]

I considered giving up on the show, but I'm going to watch tonight's episode first to see how they deal with the aftermath of it before I make a decision.

[ravenboo.livejournal.com]

I have heard Matthew was ok with the storyline, I don't know that anyone fully expected the impact the episode would have on the fans. I was hoping against hope at the last minute somehow someone would yell "She's still alive !!". That could have been an amazing story arc as she recovered and got to know the team, now it's just..emptiness for Reid..again. I may read the discussions afterwards, I'm just not sure..

[daydreamer1984.livejournal.com]

I've been really frustrated with this show for awhile now. I'm sick of the writers treating Ried like he's weak and constantly throwing shit at him. Like frig, let the guy have something good happen for him for once. Why does he always get the short end of the stick? What because he's younger, smaller and smarter than the rest. It's really annoying.

[ravenboo.livejournal.com]

I am sick of it too, I can't stand this "Poor Reid gets whumped, again" anymore. Matthew was good with this storyline from what I read somewhere though. I don't think they anticipated such a strong fan reaction...

[rainbow-goddess.livejournal.com]

This is what they said about the story, about Reid and about Matthew: "We pitched a story where we’d introduce a unique love interest for Dr. Reid and it would end in tragedy,” showrunner Erica Messer explains. And make no mistake, the dark wrinkle had Matthew Gray Gubler’s blessing. “Matthew agreed the only way to tell this story was if she died in the saddest way possible,” Messer says. And while Maeve’s murder — in front of the beau she’d only just set eyes on — abruptly ended this week’s hour, Reid’s reaction/mourning “will be the emotional anchor of episode 813 and it’s the arc for Reid’s character for the rest of the season.”

Read more at ONTD: http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/74808573.html#ixzz2IjamkPsy

[haildorothygale.livejournal.com]

Reid’s reaction/mourning “will be the emotional anchor of episode 813 and it’s the arc for Reid’s character for the rest of the season.

Oh, good grief, creating and offing a character for the sake of manpain? Really? Well, if they have an ounce of self awareness, the next ep should be titled "I Let Gwen Stacy Die (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ILetGwenStacyDie) ".

[techbychance.livejournal.com]

While I hate the “kill the cop’s wife/girlfriend” trope with a passion, if I were a male cast member on CM, I would also prefer my character’s girl to be dead. With all the hatred caused by the introduction of Beth (she sure must be an unsub because she dared to lay hands on Hotch) and the theories that Maeve would be the team’s stalker/another unsub almost immediately after she was introduced, I would not want to deal with a rabid female fan base. So with this story line they established that Reid is willing and able to get a partner but they did not have to deal with the fallout of jealous crazy fans for too long. Instead they gathered sympathy for the poor woobie. See, everybody wins.

[freddlerabbit.livejournal.com]

I know I don't think I can take it anymore, and another LJ friend of mine said she's done after this, too - FWIW!

[ravenboo.livejournal.com]

I'm still really hurting about Paget and now they just keep whumping Reid. I just don't know anymore...

[mercyrick.livejournal.com]

I was so heartbroken for Reid. It would be nice to see something good happen to him before he says, I've had enough. Why didn't someone comfort him????? I wanted to jump in the tv and hug him.

[rebak1tten.livejournal.com]

the writer (Breen) said taht the team comfort had been done with Hotch, so they didn't want to repeat it. I would think MGG would love this, he's "the star" of a few episodes. But very tired of whumping on Reid, been there, done that, got the t-shirt. To me, it would have been more challenging for the writers and actor and the character to try to deal with the trust involved with being happy.

Anyway, will record and watch sometime, but it's not appointment TV any more. Not with Supernatural on at the same time!

[phoenixi77.livejournal.com]

I have watched that episode only once, no re-watches...thats the first time for me for any CM episode...And I seriously thinking of not watching the new one..still feeling depressed...I just cant seem to get Reid's face (MGG acted very well!) out of my mind...Its still feels too much...

[phoenixi77.livejournal.com]

Just wanted to add....

I'll still keep on watching the show, because I like MGG a lot...so as long as he is in CM, I will watch it....

[ravenboo.livejournal.com]

I love Matthew, and to see the character treated so badly breaks me up.. I know that life isn't all rainbows and butterflies, but this is not a true story, they can write in a happy ending if they want!.

[philstar22.livejournal.com]

To me it isn't that different than what happened to Haley. Yes, the whole "refrigerator" phenomena annoys me. But I think, just as with Hotch, it will allow interesting directions with Reid. I've felt that his character has kind of stagnated the past few seasons, and storylines that were started went nowhere (headaches). So this will be a way to move his character forward. And Matthew can totally pull it off.

[freddlerabbit.livejournal.com]

This is a really good point. I guess, to me, the buildup to Haley's death made more dramatic sense, as there was a longer arc and she had reasons of her own to exist, whereas I felt with Maeve it was more clearly to me just creating a character and killing her for the sake of wounding Reid. I think I initially objected to her as a disposable character. But she did get a reasonable amount of screentime for someone like that - maybe not ep for ep with Haley, but maybe enough to establish herself independently. So I will reconsider in that light - thanks for the thought!

[ravenboo.livejournal.com]

I was hoping this was going to help his character, giving him a relationship and all. Now I don't know at all. BTW, what is "refrigerator" ??.

[meepalicious.livejournal.com]

Stuffed into the Fridge (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/StuffedIntoTheFridge).

Basically, a (usually female) character is disposed of (usually horribly) to make a (usually male) character angst.

[ravenboo.livejournal.com]

As if Reid doesn't have enough?? Sigh...I'm just done..

[lythinae.livejournal.com]

'So this will be a way to move his character forward. And Matthew can totally pull it off. '

MGG can def pull off whatever they throw at him. I guess I'm a little jaded with the writing over the last couple of season, and this was the whole straw camel thing (tbh, I wouldn't be at all surprised for them to use the addiction plot again). It's just frustrating when they resort to tired cliches for shock factor/angst.

And yeah, I don't think there's a whole lotta difference between Maeve, Hayley and Rossi's dead wife.

[blue-sunflowers.livejournal.com]

So this will be a way to move his character forward.

Except not, since a Maeve lives storyline would actually have him moving forwards now, as opposed to what we're getting, a regression (and for the umpteenth time) and THEN a move forward.

(http://s1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc483/bluesunflowers/?action=view&current=maeve.jpg)

So really, all they've done is just waste time.

[ravenboo.livejournal.com]

Too bad they're moving him forward to being alone, again, as he was before...

[diemme.livejournal.com]

I'll keep watching. I do enjoy the show but I'm not as connected to it as I used to be. I used to be 'Wednesday night=Criminal Minds!' and now I'm more, 'oh, Wednesday, Criminal Minds is on.'

[ravenboo.livejournal.com]

I feel the same way..:(

[wizardelfgirl.livejournal.com]

The show is on hiatus until February in my country, so I've only watched about 4 episodes. I've heard a lot of good/bad things about that Zugzwang episode though, so I'm terribly curious about it. Curious enough that I might just watch all the episodes on the internet until I get to it. (as a rule I never watch episodes on the internet).

[runriggers.livejournal.com]

I am getting really tired of Reid being the one that gets all this done to. I want to see tonight's episode to see how they deal with last week's episode. I was hoping that maybe Maeve had survived. I think overall, Morgan is the one that hasn't had much in the way of traumatic things happening to him....all of his traumatic episodes have happened in his distant past.

[rambleinblue.livejournal.com]

I will watch until the series ends, ups and downs. Love the show, love the cast.....love the whole thing.

[surreysmum.livejournal.com]

Well, I liked the team stuff in this new one. I guess for a lot of you it's not on till tomorrow, so I won't get more specific than that so as not to accidentally give any spoilers. MGG did a really good job.

[ravenboo.livejournal.com]

Thanks :). I'll keep that in mind.. I do love Matthew :)

[scandalbaby.livejournal.com]

I'm done with the show. I was unhappy about Prentiss not being there and I don't like Blake all that much. And i really liked Maeve and loved seeing Reid happy. I'm sick of him never being happy. So yeah, I'm done.

[ravenboo.livejournal.com]

Me too, I really tried, I turned it on last night, and then shut it off, I just couldn't. I desperately miss Prentiss and yeah, Blake is ok but eh. I really liked Maeve a lot, but thanks to thoughtless writing she's gone and so are you and I. I think we aren't the only ones though...