Promo for 4 x 07 Memoriam

[nebula99.livejournal.com]

Found a promo at last. *is excited*

(might be a spoiler or two behind the cut)

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[shortypenguin.livejournal.com]

YAY :D

[spirited-lizard.livejournal.com]

Omg!!!

[krazikrys.livejournal.com]

Yeah!!!! More Reid!!!! I hope it's not TOO bad....

[babymine.livejournal.com]

Im speechless.. I want to hug Reid.

[batgurl88]

You are my hero! Thank you so much for posting this - I've been looking everywhere!

[xbittersweet89x.livejournal.com]

OMG. OMG. OMG. Is it wednesday yet?

[chibi-nezu.livejournal.com]

.. I don't know what to think about that O.o
I want it to be Wednesday now.. like now now.. now..

I'm really hoping they don't go down the pedo-Dad route..

[nebula99.livejournal.com]

I think pedo-Dad is very unlikely. For a start, I don't think a murderous paedophile is going to stop at one child and William would have racked up quite a body count by now. Also, if Diana thought Reid was in danger from his father, there's no way she would have asked William to take him when they split up.

Either Mini!Reid is the killer or Dead Uncle Daniel is the wrong 'un. Or I'm completely and utterly wrong!

[anomalous1.livejournal.com]

If pedo-Dad happened, I think Reid would be much different, and more "dangerous" if that makes sense.

[briecheesie.livejournal.com]

maybe, but it's a case of repressed memories so he has no idea if it happened or not - he didn't even know what "it" was until this episode. so we can't really say for sure if he'd be different (i personally don't think pedo-dad happened because, like nebula99 said, it fucks with continuity. they messed with the continuity of hotch's father a little so, we can't be sure, but that was more in passing and there wasn't actual flashbacks to show an established history.)

[coffeeem.livejournal.com]

Woohoo! You rawk. Now I can start that watching-obssessively I promised myself. *g*

[enots.livejournal.com]

Yesssssssssss

[a_blackpanther]

"Are you sure you want to go down this road?"

Oh yes! Is it Wednesday yet??

The case for CSI:NY sounds interesting. Actually sounds like one of the eps where i'd be thinking "Why haven't they called in the BAU?" and counting up mistakes Hotch & Co. would have avoided.

[briecheesie.livejournal.com]

i do kind of hope it goes down the William being a pedophile route, because i'm sick and love reid abuse lol. but at the same time i know it won't because it would fuck with the continuity. William didn't abandon Reid and his mother until Reid was about 8 (via "Revelations") and the keyword is "abandon", because he left of his own will and no one forced him out. Diana clearly knows what happened and she was so scared for Reid's safety that she made them change houses. It would not make sense that she would stay with the source of danger for the next four years, and then even ask William to take Reid with him when he left.

i'm kind of scared it will end up being really anti-climatic at the end and and having it be that william just found the body or something, because i can't see his father being the one who could hurt reid if they stuck to continuity. diana may be not well, but one thing you can't say about her is that she'd ever leave reid in danger.

[weasley-girl-ca.livejournal.com]

i know it won't because it would fuck with the continuity

If William is a pedophile, he may or may not have hurt his own kid. If he is a bad guy *and* he did hurt Reid at a young age, Reid probably didn't dare tell anyone and then eventually repressed the memories. Thus, William wouldn't feel the need to desert them at the time. He later abandons them when he's older, not because of his own deviations but because he's weak and cannot handle the deterioration of his wife's mind.

It would not make sense that she would stay with the source of danger for the next four years, and then even ask William to take Reid with him when he left.

Also, if this is all true, it is also possible that Diana sensed that Reid was in danger at age 4 but was not aware of the source of the danger. Not ever thinking that her husband would ever hurt Reid, she would insist on moving and *unknowingly* bringing the source of danger with them. And if she never knew, she wouldn't hesitate to ask William to take Reid, knowing that she wasn't capable of taking care of him.

i'm kind of scared it will end up being really anti-climatic at the end

I agree, I don't want this to end up being anti-climatic. The last episode had such a major cliffhanger and it's been building up for viewers for a week now, it would be disappointing if there isn't a big revelation. It doesn't have to be that William hurt Reid but I hope it isn't as simple as dad found the body. I felt that 'Damaged' (I think that's the name of the Rossi episode) was anti-climatic after building up the case and Rossi's long-term attachment to it since being introduced to his character and I was kind of disappointed.

[briecheesie.livejournal.com]

In my opinion, though, Diana knows exactly what happened. I'm nearly one hundred percent positive that she was trying to dissuade Reid in the last episode when he was trying to figure out what had happened about moving/riley/the funeral. and even in the promo, Reid asks if his dad did anything and she shrieks "no" like she's hiding something. So I still stick by my belief that it would fuck with continuity if William was the killer/molester and it's all because i'm sure Diana knows what really happened and is keeping it from Reid. But you do bring up some interesting and possible points.

[weasley-girl-ca.livejournal.com]

That's very true...Diana's reactions in the last eppy and the preview probably means she knows something...

And thank you for the tip :D...I'll probably watch it twice, online and when it airs, lol.

[briecheesie.livejournal.com]

lol i always do that. i watch it at least once tuesday night (and then rewatch the parts i loved) and then on wednesday i watch again :D

[parisntripfan.livejournal.com]

I agree that Diana either knows exactly what happened or has a pretty good idea. And she is trying to keep it from Reid. She doesn't want him to find out what it is. (And that may be why she doesn't like the idea of him working on cases involving young children.)

She slipped up in that conversation she has with Spencer. At first she tells Reid that Riley was just a story he made up. After Reid tells her he's been having dreams about Riley or finding his body she tells him "you always were a reader - it effected your dreams" So she might have known that Riley was real and little Spencer had read about his death/murder.

[briecheesie.livejournal.com]

i don't think reid read about the case - that wouldn't make sense seeing as how he's so affected by it. besides - morgan said at the end that reid probably read it and remembered it and reid disagreed. reid and his father are some how intricately involved with the case and diana knows how. we have to wait until wed to find out, though D:

[parisntripfan.livejournal.com]

Maybe. But if young Spencer knew Riley he might have been more effected.

Looking at the preview more closely I noticed something. We see Riley in what seems to be some sort of team shirt. Now in one of the pictures on the actor playing Young Spencer we see him in similar shirt (in a chair that says Criminal Minds on it)

So even if young Spencer wasn't involved in the case there is chance he knew Riley. And that connection might be why Diana was so scared that little Spencer was in danger.

[briecheesie.livejournal.com]

lol how much more affected can you be by something than repressed memories? that, in itself, should be a sign as to how painful it (whatever "it" is) was.

and yeah, he definitely knew riley. i have no doubt in my mind that reid tricked himself into thinking he was an imaginary friend in his anguish instead of a real live person that he knew.

[weasley-girl-ca.livejournal.com]

K, I'm delurking :D.

I am so excited for this episode! Plus, I think we're going to see JJ and baby :D! But at the same time I'm scared of what any revelations will do to Reid.

Does anyone want to be obsessive with me and analysis this preview?

The first flashback/dream We already saw this, so nothing new there.

"My mind is sending me singles..." --> He's saying that to Morgan, right?

"We're looking for a pedophile. Are you sure you want to go down this road?" --> Is Rossi asking this because he's worried Reid won't be able to handle the fact that his dad is a sex offender or is he worried that his dad might have hurt Reid and going down this road would bring up memories that should stay hidden for Reid's own sake?

In second flashback/dream --> Is the person sleeping in the dream adult!Reid, child!Reid or Riley? I can't tell.

Mom's reaction --> Her reaction suggests that she knows something. The thing is, does she explicitly know, is she in severe denial or is her mind also repressing certain memories/feelings

"Tell me the truth" Are they talking in an interrogation room?

Okay, I know I'm obsessed...
Ironic thing is, I'm Canadian but I didn't start watching Criminal Minds until I moved to the States for school in September (I'm all up-to-date now :D). If I were at home, I could be watching this tomorrow!

[briecheesie.livejournal.com]

you still can! lol i never wait until wednesday. it's always posted online at http://www.sidereel.com/Criminal_Minds on tuesday night after it airs in Canada :)

[draconifers.livejournal.com]

Whattt? I was not aware of this. I've been waiting for Wednesday for the past couple of months. What channel does it air on on Tuesday?

[briecheesie.livejournal.com]

uhm, idk. i'm a US resident, so i don't know the exact channel - but the little logo on the bottom of the screen says CTV if that helps?

[draconifers.livejournal.com]

Eek! Thank you! Haha I can't believe I waited until wednesdays to watch it.

[batgurl88]

In Canada it airs on CTV at 8pm on Tuesdays.

[draconifers.livejournal.com]

Thanks =)

[slash-girl.livejournal.com]

Actually, this week (and next), it's airing on Wed at 9pm Eastern.

It only gets moved to Tuesday when there's a "more important" show on.

To check the schedule, you can go here: http://www.ctv.ca/generic/generated/tvlist/ATVtvlist2.html

[batgurl88]

What? I checked it for this week on Saturday and it had it at on Tues. at 8 again. Why did they change it? :(

Well that sucks. Sigh. Why must they toy with my emotions so??

[slash-girl.livejournal.com]

Actually, it's been reading Wed for me since last week for this coming Wed. They update the schedule every Sunday, so you may have been looking at an old schedule? I'm not sure.

Yeah, CTV are pretty much bastards!

[weasley-girl-ca.livejournal.com]

What are your thoughts on little!Reid killer theory?

My problem with this is that a four-year-old could not sexually abuse a six-year-old, so there still has to be a sex offender. Secondly, can you imagine four-year-old Reid stabbing a child to death? Reid can hardly hurt a fly as an adult, let alone as a child. And thirdly, can you imagine the toll this will take on Reid? I don’t know if he could come back from this. I mean, he’d be a killer…

[briecheesie.livejournal.com]

i briefly considered it, but it would just make no sense whatsoever. reid is obviously on the cases in the next few episodes (as seen from pictures of the upcoming eps) and not in some kind of containment for the murder of a child. i understand that he was only 4, but some form of charges need to be filed against him even so - murder cases never have statutes of limitations and he'd have to be punished in some way. and obviously he wasn't fired (which is something i think they'd do immediately.)

if just to humour the theory itself, i'd say the only way it would be believable/possible is if riley was attacking reid/trying to sexually abuse him (because riley was obviously molested and he might have snapped and turned it on reid to prove that he wasn't powerless to himself [i've read many cases where kids as young as 5 will do this to those weaker than them]) and reid just started stabbing at him in defense and ended up killing him.

i think reid being sexually abused is more likely as i watch the promo and see reid's dad touch him and stand over him as a kid as he sleeps, but you know my thoughts on how that'd fuck with continuity already so i'm still skeptical. plus, i think it might be too much to have two of the main characters both have been sexually abused as kids (though reid was dramatically younger than morgan)

[batgurl88]

i think reid being sexually abused is more likely as i watch the promo and see reid's dad touch him and stand over him as a kid as he sleeps, but you know my thoughts on how that'd fuck with continuity already so i'm still skeptical. plus, i think it might be too much to have two of the main characters both have been sexually abused as kids (though reid was dramatically younger than morgan)

The thing about promos is they love to lie. I could easily see the scene with William Reid standing over a sleeping Spencer (if that's who it is - I couldn't tell if it was Andrew Astor or not without the glasses) being a perfectly innocent father-son thing. Like maybe William just saw something to do with the case of a little boy murdered and went to check on his own son. It could be any number of things, and I have to agree that having two male main characters with sexual abuse in their past is pushing it a bit.

[briecheesie.livejournal.com]

I completely agree about them lying, and i don't believe Reid was molested by his father because of the established background we already have on Reid's family. But if we're comparing killer!reid and molested!reid - you have to admit that the latter is more likely lol.

[batgurl88]

Agreed. The logistics of 4-year-old killer!reid are just mindboggling, so if it's between the two, molested!reid is more likely. I'm still holding out for a last-minute twist(dark) ending, though. Something none of us will see coming...

[weasley-girl-ca.livejournal.com]

Your icon is pure love :D.

[batgurl88]

Why thank you! :)

[briecheesie.livejournal.com]

I hope so! But here hasn't been any news on Reid angst past this episode, so either they're really good at keeping it on lock down or the events in this episode aren't enough to affect him that badly. In an interview from late Aug/early Sept, though, MGG spoke about this episode arc and said it's some of the darkest stuff in the show and that the fans will hate it, but he'll love it. So I can't help but hope we're not let down in that aspect and it's not something as simple as "reid's only childhood friend was molested and killed and he found the body". (yes, i know that's scarring for a child, but for this show? it's nothing lol)

[weasley-girl-ca.livejournal.com]

I agree, I highly doubt that they would have two characters with similar pasts in the same team/cast. It's interesting that they are allowing it to be interpreted that way and what the actual outcome will be. I'm inclined to think that yes, Reid's dad might have been a pedophile but no, he did not touch his son.

[parisntripfan.livejournal.com]

The thing about promos is they love to lie.

That is my thought. They are trying to hard to make us think that Wm Reid is a bad guy.

[chelseabagel.livejournal.com]

svbszdfkbnaldkfn *CANNOT WAIT TILL WEDNESDAY*

[albydarned.livejournal.com]

*jumping into the conversation a little late, but whatever* Something that strikes me as interesting about this promo is Rossi's presence with Spencer and the therapist along with his line about pedophiles ... even though Morgan is in the room with them when they are going over the information. Last week, Morgan was the agent who kept connecting with Reid over what happened in his nightmares, so you'd think that if he was still around, he might want to continue doing that.

So, my two thoughts are either the show does go down the Reid-was-molested route (unlikely), and they could use this as a way to go back to Morgan's history and either have him try to talk to Reid and to make him feel better, or for Morgan to entirely shut down in order to protect himself from his own bad memories. That, or if Reid wasn't molested (more likely) ... I don't know. Rossi is just around more often? Morgan was out of the camera angle?

[boothbones4eva.livejournal.com]

OMG!! This epidsode is going to be soooo good (hopefully)