Trust me, I don't have a lot of positive things to say about the spin-off, but it doesn't share a budget with the original show. Reducing Paget and getting rid of AJ have no correlation to who they hire on the spin-off.
I get really irritated every time I read the spin-off description. A team of "elite FBI profilers within the BAU". It feels like a slight to our guys. /rant
I have a few thoughts about this. First off, while I'd like to get mad at the spin-off for hiring "names" while the original is reducing roles, I can't. The spin-off and the original are two separate shows with two separate budgets. Second, I'm not exactly sure why the spin-off is hiring "names." Do they think it will get them more viewers? Third, I was shocked that I actually really enjoyed Garofalo in a serious role when she was on "24," when I originally thought she'd be horrible for the part.
I have no issue with boycotting the spinoff for the following reasons:
a) Not one of those cast members is hot b) It sucks d) Not one of those cast members is hot e) It sucks
Therefore, not relevant to my interests and not entering my viewing schedule, regardless of creators and CBS fail. But the latter just make me even less inclined to watch it.
I dig JG, but I was never interested in the spin-off, and I'm certainly not going to start now. Sorry, but some shows just don't need publicity stunts. Some shows can stand on their own.
Wow, I guess I'm like the only person on this LJ that is actually excited for the new spin-off. I love NCIS:LA, I loved CSI:NY (until the show became a wankfest with Danny) and I'm hoping that Criminal Minds 2.0 is the same way.
Now, I'm not saying I ain't pissed with the letting go of Cook, or that I didn't rage over Paget's cutback, but I'm going to judge this new show for what it is.
A new show.
And like someone else said, both shows are separate and have different budgets. Who knows how a national television broadcast network works? Or even what their mindset is?
Let's hope they retool it from the backdoor pilot...
At first, I was kinda ambivalent about the spin-off. I mean, it's great that the show is strong enough to earn a spin-off to begin with. But what turned me off is how hard they are trying to make the show 'cool' and 'awesome'. I think the pilot was poorly done and did seriously color my view of the spin-off.
Now, with the push for more 'names'... hell, Garofalo could be a huge fan and this a dream come true for her... it just like they're trying too much for it to be good and not relying upon what made CM a success in the first place: outstanding story-telling. With the name "suspect behavior" so... bland. I mean, really, isn't profiling all about suspect behavior?
Anyway, unlike the CSIs or the L&O, they didn't tag it with something specific. They could have done something interesting like, make this an "international" version or a group that focuses specifically on a type of criminal. To have it as 'generic' as "Suspect Behavior".
I wasn't that into a new spin off before this but I don't think she can play a serious role so its another reason for not watching it. I can't stand spin offs, if the original works, just let it be, don't spin it off into a bunch of crappy knock-offs.
That's exactly it, the entire spin off feels like a twelve year old's formula for a "kewl" and edgy show.
Mysterious, maverick leader who tells authority to eff off - check! Hawt, aloof, bad ass chick - check! Brilliant, snarky guy with kewl name - check! Hawt, foreign, sharp shooter/secret agent/former assassin/random edgy profession, hiding heart of gold under lines and sarcasm guy - check!
Those characters were almost caricatures they were so awful. One of the best things about the Criminal Minds cast is that underneath the intelligence and training they're just ordinary, interesting people.
i haven't seen enough of her to decide whether i like her or not...but i'm crossing my fingers and praying she replaces that annoying chick who was in the backdoor spinoff pilot.
Man, this was just what they did for NCIS: Los Angeles. They did that episode of NCIS with the other team in LA, for what became the spin-off cast, just to see if people liked them. And then went forward with it. And NCIS: LA isn't that great. I've been watching it just on the off-chance that something cool would happen, but it's risen from bad to merely mediocre, with very occasional flashes of pretty cool. But it's not consistant.
One could hope that with Forrest Whitaker on board that the writing would be better for CM: Suspect Behavior. Then again, CSI: NY has the talented Gary Sinese, and that show occasionally has writing so bad my teeth hurt. Not always, but occasionally.
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Date: Jun. 28th, 2010 11:11 pm (UTC)So they hired a new actress for the spin-off while canning ...
I can't even deal with this anymore.
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Date: Jun. 28th, 2010 11:18 pm (UTC)Unbelievable.
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Date: Jun. 28th, 2010 11:32 pm (UTC)I mean, I've loved her for years, but she's not enough to make me watch that stupid spinoff. And she can't be cheaper to hire than AJ + Paget.
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Date: Jun. 28th, 2010 11:40 pm (UTC)No wonder they offed characters from the original if they're paying for people with profiles like this.
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Date: Jun. 29th, 2010 01:21 am (UTC)a) Not one of those cast members is hot
b) It sucks
d) Not one of those cast members is hot
e) It sucks
Therefore, not relevant to my interests and not entering my viewing schedule, regardless of creators and CBS fail. But the latter just make me even less inclined to watch it.
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Date: Jun. 28th, 2010 11:49 pm (UTC)Still won't be watching the spin-off, though.
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Date: Jun. 29th, 2010 12:06 am (UTC)...and I apologize to all SS fans in advance. Again, another comedienne that I just am not a fan of...
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Date: Jun. 29th, 2010 01:03 am (UTC)Now, I'm not saying I ain't pissed with the letting go of Cook, or that I didn't rage over Paget's cutback, but I'm going to judge this new show for what it is.
A new show.
And like someone else said, both shows are separate and have different budgets. Who knows how a national television broadcast network works? Or even what their mindset is?
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Date: Jun. 29th, 2010 01:18 am (UTC)At first, I was kinda ambivalent about the spin-off. I mean, it's great that the show is strong enough to earn a spin-off to begin with. But what turned me off is how hard they are trying to make the show 'cool' and 'awesome'. I think the pilot was poorly done and did seriously color my view of the spin-off.
Now, with the push for more 'names'... hell, Garofalo could be a huge fan and this a dream come true for her... it just like they're trying too much for it to be good and not relying upon what made CM a success in the first place: outstanding story-telling. With the name "suspect behavior" so... bland. I mean, really, isn't profiling all about suspect behavior?
Anyway, unlike the CSIs or the L&O, they didn't tag it with something specific. They could have done something interesting like, make this an "international" version or a group that focuses specifically on a type of criminal. To have it as 'generic' as "Suspect Behavior".
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Date: Jun. 29th, 2010 04:44 pm (UTC)Not trying to start anything. I love NCIS and won't watch this spinoff, but just wanted to mention it.
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Date: Jun. 29th, 2010 01:26 am (UTC)I guess it's apparent now what TPTB's pet project is
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Date: Jun. 29th, 2010 01:39 am (UTC)NOT!
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Date: Jun. 29th, 2010 02:17 am (UTC)Mysterious, maverick leader who tells authority to eff off - check!
Hawt, aloof, bad ass chick - check!
Brilliant, snarky guy with kewl name - check!
Hawt, foreign, sharp shooter/secret agent/former assassin/random edgy profession, hiding heart of gold under lines and sarcasm guy - check!
Those characters were almost caricatures they were so awful. One of the best things about the Criminal Minds cast is that underneath the intelligence and training they're just ordinary, interesting people.
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Date: Jun. 29th, 2010 06:57 am (UTC)Poor spin-off, you aren't loved at all, and you still have to start.
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Date: Jun. 29th, 2010 10:32 am (UTC)One could hope that with Forrest Whitaker on board that the writing would be better for CM: Suspect Behavior. Then again, CSI: NY has the talented Gary Sinese, and that show occasionally has writing so bad my teeth hurt. Not always, but occasionally.
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Date: Jun. 29th, 2010 02:54 pm (UTC)Then again, Stevie Nicks might just show up....